ClaudeJ1

I have owned 32 (still have some) of Tom's U.S.A. conical horn products over time.Lots of low distortion sound in small packages is his jam. He still plays bass along with his music. I hope Roy still plays drums an wears hearing protection. LOL. I just designed and built a pair of d'Appolito reflex, twin 15" Eminence speakers with the latest concentric 2-way compression drivers in a PRV horn to replace the Klipsch Forte 1, just sold to my brother for his basement system. Leaving his Cornwalls upstairs for his wife's living room. I'm bi-amping the passive woofer & mid-tweeter section with 2 PA-5's. An original one (over 2 years old, never shut off) on the high end and a PA-5 II on the bass, which of course uses 10-12 db more power than the horn portion. At 100 db/W sensitivity,, I never worry about enough power. I have finer control of relative amplitudes vs. Autoformers or resistors (it's "dial a fractional db control"). It's also called "great, useful watts" for the dolar. Always look for what it Good in a product vs. the bad REVIEWS everyone else seems to seek incessantly, which prevents them from progressing in their quest for better sound.

Great comment. Since version II is likely fixed an the only one available at an even lower price than the original, I would say the only fear is fear itself. Whether these guys buy one or not will not change my life & audio happiness one iota.

I was not "covering up" or angry about anything. I'm generally just impatient with posts that totally miss the Clarity of my posts. Or contribute zero. Just stating my real world experience, nothing more, nothing less. Never read more "into" a post past what is EXACTLY written. After 10,000 of them I think I figured out how to do that Accurately myself. Everything else is misconstrued on the part of the reply typists, including YOU apparently. Also, I will not stand for someone telling me to "stop it," especially from people who never contribute anything POSITIVE or useful here. If I ever call out anyone's "bullshit" here, the term was coined by Paul Klipsch himself & should be immune from retorts of outrage or censorship.

Since most speakers are WORSE "space heaters" than Klipsch speakers are latest from Part Express clock in at 78 dB/watt 4 ohm impedance, vs. 90-104 for most Klipsch proucts, the typical user I spoke of simple uses more power, like 100 times more, which is why the early failures exist.

I own 3 of the original an 1 of the V II for over 2 years. Never a single issue with horns. I NEVER turn them off, only the Pre amp an source get turned off. Never Blame the Product on what might Be id10t users.

Roy has made respectable performance in the "Below 80 Hz. world" of Horns with HORNS. Physics is Physics. Large, heavy lumber is not for high volume products.................a Market Reality!

Unless it's a very, very fine lunch with a few friends & a large bar Tab!

Oh, no. Heaven forbid you might have to spend more than Lunch Money for anything that works well in audio.

From an intellectual perspective, you are not that hard to figure out.

you forgot a plate amp for the sub

No, he can't. PWK left us 22 years ago. Fred sold the company 12 years ago.W need to get real about this. emos are one thing, but posting the recipe for a fine dish is a NONO for the finest chefs in the world. I just want his recipe for broiled bass with lemon butter (if he has one).

Speaking of nice photos, did you ever install those Four 12" drivers into the Snail Horns you got from me over a year ago? Just curious as to how they might sound and/or measure.

Since commercial recordings get "stepped on" so many times and so many ways, what's one more Step? At least the user has the final Control Step instead of out of control idiots with large checkbooks!

2 Words: ROOM Treatments!

Yup. And the total fallacy of some "Audiophiles," is the statement: "I want my speakers to give me the sound as the Artist intended." PWK did it right with his recordings and hsi 2PH3 Array of Horns. The rest of the recordings TODAY, have been Stepped ON a half dozen times in the Mastering stages with so many Electronic Toys.... All driven by the idiots with a big checkbook the say: "Make everything louder than everything else."

I don't need a fix. I have zero problems with mine driving horns at either 4 or 8 ohms, passive. I have 3 of the originals and one Mk II version. I'm sure guys that had problems were trying to drive 84 db space heater speakers with too many watts. No "solution" needed here.

You are lucky the price went back up. They were available for like, $150 new for a while, which would kill your attempt at selling. I have 4 of them myself, so not need. GLWS.

I have 2 pairs in my Walnut SH 1.0's with E networks w/refreshed caps of the same value. Maybe SH 1.1 would be more appropriate, since not raising the horns up to a Cornwall b2 Network level (and the leads are already reversed for the horns). This (built in the E network) polarity change gets better phase response and creates a better sounding version vs. my original with the less attenuated horns. I should have never commented that it was, effectively, a "b" Network with reversed polarity. The confusion it created was unnecessary and the KISS rule should have been applied. The less you do to an E network Heresy, the better it is. My bad on that note.

The Carver Tube amps sound "better" because they use their inherent Microphonics as part of the feedback circuit. In other words, they "listen to the room" they are in. I use a microphone for the same feed back in solid state. It's an apples and elephants comparison at best. Not Class D vs Glass. It's not that simple.

PWK told me it was a waste of good copper just to drive a #30 gauge wire in the K33 WOOFER. So only worth the time to YOU, as my bs meter is pegging about doing that to a frikkin' Tweter!

And if you have any extra, you can use it to Jump Start a Diesel Locomotive! bs alerts notwithstanding.

You can just use an E network with the same woofers, that's all.

You skipped the keyword "value" when stating YOUR preference for permanent Tone Controls over neutrality.

Apparently the real question is "Will it still let us ROCK OUT on having them NOT in corners?" If it does, then no amount of factual feedback from Amateurs will suffice. Only fanboy emotional "testing" responses will be approved or retained.

Thank you for the invitation. 😊😁