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Duke- You sound like one of those horn critics that labels any horn a pa horn. True that mid range horns because of their high efficency and clarity make for excellent pa applications The University Cobraflex is an amazing folded horn that has been used in both hi-fi speaker systems (as a midrange with a very good driver) or as a stand alone for voice pa applications. I like it for the center in my home theater because it reproduces the human voice extremely well which is usually what's on the center and has a wide dispersion pattern so people to the side can still hear what's being said. - For music I usually just use the k-horns except for multi-channel sacds and audio/video material. With the SACDs I "A-B"ed it with a 511b (using the same 55V driver) and could not tell the difference. However, with the spoken word the cobra was clearer and wider ranged.

$1000 for a pair would work. I have modified my Khorns with Al's crossovers and 511Bs and have just added the Beyma tweeters - much clearer, crisper with wider dispersion. Sounds great! I am considering Al's new mid horns but I have the 511s sprayed with damping material and don't have any ringing so I probably won't. I use University cobraflex horns in the centers instead of 511b s. I also have 8 LaScala's, 5 I use as a center and surrounds and 3 in another system. I often thought I would like to find a Khorn bin and lay it on it's side in the "corner" formed by the floor and the back wall to serve as a bass bin for the center channel replacing the LaScala bin but am not sure it would make any real difference. Good luck. If I was starting from scratch your bins would be of real inerest, may buy one for the center if I feel industrious.

A Khorn bass bin kit seems like a good idea but I wonder about the economics of it. Khorns in pairs can be had on ebay and other sites for about $1700.- $2000. ( I got mine for $1500.) The trick is finding them close enough for pick up. But that gives you two finished bins AND top units with all the speakers and crossover for less than $2000. Your bins, unassembled, would cost $2000 plus shipping with no speakers and crossovers, if I understand you correctly. Templates and instructions might be the better way to go. Never-the-less it is a difficult construction project. A thought just occured to me - I wonder if there would be any way to convert a La Scala bass bin into a khorn? ie - Could part of the La Scala bass bin be used as the core of a conversion kit? They can be had for about $700-$900 a pair on ebay.

I have an all heritage HT that I control and drive with my Outlaw 950 preamp and a Outlaw 7100 7 channel amp. For CDs, I run them through Perpetual Technologies DACs/processing devices and jitter reduction devices then into a 2 channel Dynaco tube preamp into the 950 preamp (which has a bypass feature) into two channels of the 7100 and then to my Khorns. I think I get the best of a tube sound with the power of my solid state amp ( for solid, powerful bass) yet with a flick of a switch I have the full HT available and with another flick I have a tube sound for music.

I love my 950 and 7100 combination with my all Heritage HT. I do like to use the bypass feature and process my cds and lps through a dynaco tube preamp for mellower 2 channel music. A fantastic buy!

I use the Outlaw 950 preamp and 7100 amp which sounds great with my Khorns and LaScalas. For serious two channel listening, however, I like to use a Dynaco PAS4 Preamp through the 950s pass through feature for that old time tube mellowness.

A rebuilt dynaco or eico preamp would be one option.

The DACs in the 1050 are very good so any good DVD player will serve as an adequate transport. I use Sony.

DVD sound is not as good as CD sound which is not as good as SACD sound which approaches Vinyl at it's best (costly and requires a fastidiousness that's way beyond my capabilities). The 1050 does an outstanding job with DVDs.

artto- Where did you find stereophile for $12 per year? What issue are you refering to, I'd like to check it out.

You will be hard pressed to find a better solid state receiver than the 1050. The problem is that the Heritage speakers are a better match to tube equiptment - thus my use of the tube preamp for music. However, you can, as you found, make an adjustment by altering room accoustics (the most neglected component of a great system). If you find it still a little bright, try some absorption or defussion treatment at he point of first reflection. Moving the speakers around can work wonders too. Something that is impossible with khorns. Get the 1050, you won't be disappointed.

I've used the 1050 with all the Heritage speakers. It is an excellent receiver. You may need some accoustical treatment if your room is overly bright ... it is not quite as mellow as tubes ... I used a tube preamp into it for music which was an excellent combo. The bottom line however is that the 1050 is a fantastic bargain.

I have an all Heritage Home Theater with an Outlaw 950 preanp that has a pass through feature that I use for records and cd's. My cd's are processed through jitter reduction, upsampling and other processing devices that make them sound more like super audio cd's. I found that sending their two channel stereo signal through a dynaco tube preamp and using the 950's bypass feature produces a great sound similar to records but without the surface noise. The preamp's tube sound amplified wth the omph! of a great solid state amplifier (I use an Outlaw 7100) into my Klipshorns produces a great audio experience.

The previously mentioned pair of Heresy woofers are still on ebay - high bid is$5.50 for the pair! I've seen them go for over $100. Since a new one would cost $80 why not put a bid in for the pair - place a high bid for slightly over $100 and you may get lucky and get the matched pair - you could then sell your spare or keep it as backup.

The previously mentioned pair of Heresy woofers are still on ebay - high bid is$5.50 for the pair! I've seen them go for over $100. Since a new one would cost $80 why not put a bid in for the pair - place a high bid for slightly over $100 and you may get lucky and get the matched pair - you could then sell your spare or keep it as backup.

They go for $300 to $500 on ebay plus shipping which can run from $50-$100 add'l. A lot depends on the condition, the components and how close competitive bidders are to the seller. If you paid only $65 for the pair and they are in good condition, they are well worth repairing.

I read or heard a story a while back about Paul Klipsch one uping the AR live vs recorded demos of jazz quartets back in the 60s by using Klipschorns driven by a 5 watt amp in a live vs recorded demo of a symphony orchestra in a symphony hall. If true, a 100 watt amp is not needed to drive the LaScalas to defening levels in the size room mentioned without clipping. That has been my experience with my Heritage speakers although I am not playing htem in rooms bigger than 12 x 24.

This looks interesting - anyone have any experience with this? Guess you would have to use one of the generic files for Klipsch speakers.

A matched set is the best way to go. However, the most critical are the 3 front speakers; similar speakers can often work as surrounds. Also, the surrounds are best along side the listener with the 5/6 channels in the rear.

I have attempted to get the best of both worlds by combining a modern update of an old dynaco stereo tube preamp design (dynaco PAS-4) with a great solid state Home Theater pre-amp and amp (Outlaw 950 and 7100). I also use Perpetual Technologies 1A & 3A Dacs and jitter reduction to upgrade my CDs. The preamp provides a tube mellowness combined with the power of solid state amplification and the ability to easily switch to multi-channel HT and SACDs. Works great with my Heritage speakers. The 950 has a pass through mode which I use when I play stereo CDs or records(seldom anymore).

There are far worse addictions. And this forum is a support group.

A number of audio sites, as well as ebay, have marketplaces that offer old Heritage for sale. Of course, things pop up on this site from time to time. I lucked out on the audioreview.com classified. I got the Khorns for $1500, but one had a blown tweeter. And two LaScalas that were beat up for $300/pair ( filled in knicks and scratches and repainted black - one was missing a woofer which I picked up on ebay for $56). You may have to travel a little and you'll need a good sized vehicle to haul them. Other buys included wood laminate covered LaScalas ( really nice) for I think about $500 for the pair. The LaScalas would go for at least $800 - $1200 on ebay; the Khorns for around $2000. I'm sure other forum members will suggest other audio sites you can keep an eye on. Ebay comands top dollar but you can get lucky. It's a good place to study what's things are trading for. Good luck - it's a great adventure!

See if you can find an old EICO HF-81 on ebay and refurbish it. There are a number of posts on this on this forum.

I found the explaination - here it is: http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=40039&forumID=66&catID=19&search=1&searchstring=&sessionID={E5F5CD32-3CAD-4EAE-926A-453FD923500E}

My old Klipschorns, LaScalas & Heresys don't need shielding. I beleive it has something to do with the Alnico magnets. I'm sure someone will jump in here and refresh my memory as to why they don't need sheilding.