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As you can see from the listings below, I love Outlaw 1050s, they are now available for $499. down from $599. Customer service is the best I have ever experienced. They stand behind their product 200%; even helped me set up Sony components. The receiver has been very favorably reviewed by pros and consumers (see www.audioreiew.com and www.outlawaudio.com ) alike. Most believe this is a very solid A/V receiver that it is hard to match for under $1000.I could afford better but I love bargains. It works spectacularly with my Klipsch THX system the 65 watts beats out most 100 watt per channel receivers I experimented with adding the Outlaw 750 amp but it was overkill I certainly dont need 165 watts per channel with my Heritage speakers and the Klipsch THX speakers are efficient enough plus the subs have their own amps that bear a good deal of the most demanding (low frequency, low impudence) load. I did add a dynaco tube preamp to bring out the best in my Khorns . Feed it through the Outlaw 1050 have thought of getting some tube monoblocks but honestly I cant see how it could get much better, In short the 1050 is a no frills high end receiver at a bargain price. Buy it, youll love it. HT-1 (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center (serves HT-2 also) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Onix, MSB, Monster. AR, RS Gold Cables Monster Bi-wire speaker cable (Khorns) HT#2 (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold, AR & Monster cables

As you can see from the following listings, I am a big Klipsch fan. I love the old Heritage series for their dynamic, accurate sound especially the realism of the bass. My Klipsch THX system does a fabulous job with movies as it was designed specifically for that purpose as the Heritage was for the reproduction of music. When I watch music oriented DVDs, I use the Heritage system but when I watch regular movies especially those with special effect surround sound I prefer the THX system. I am still playing with the various Klipsch subs I have varying placement and combinations, I just moved both LF-10s into the THX system and they sound real good may try the SW12II in the rear of the THX room and with the KSW15 in the Heritage system. Actually except for the movie LFE effects I prefer the Khorn bass alone for music as it goes plenty low with a cleaness and accuracy that I have found nowhere else. HT-1 (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center (serves HT-2 also) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Onix, MSB, Monster. AR, RS Gold Cables Monster Bi-wire speaker cable (Khorns) HT#2 (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold, AR & Monster cables

I found that better interconnects prior to amplification made a difference. Bi-wiring the Khorns made a difference. I found the RS Gold cables are fine for many applications with all I would get the RS cables and compare them with more expensive cables. Only try those that can be returned for full credit on your credit card. I also found that the Monster Power Conditioner made a difference. But if your speakers and amps are not of very good quality, Id recommend sticking with RS Gold. HT-1 (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center (serves HT-2 also) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix, MSB, Monster, AR., RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables. (Khorns) HT#2 (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold & Monster Cables

Speaker placement is an experimental process since the characteristics of speakers and the acoustical properties vary over such a wide range. Its good to start with the manufacturers recommendations along with material like that provided in the above links. Gil is right; rear placement was a quad requirement. I would add to that that many DSP modes work best with rear placement, High side placement is really a movie thing and if you have 6,1 you need the back walls for the rear channel. I have the LaScalas stacked with the top one slightly to the rear of my listening position and angled forward. The bottom Scalas fire backwards and bounce off the rear wall. I had to experiment a lot before I came up with this arrangement. While my Heritage system is best for musicals and concert DVDs, the THX is really better for all other DVDs. . I have my Klipsch Heritage system set up so I can use either the side LaScalas or the rear firing ones in any of my DSP modes More and more, however, for most music I am just using the Klipschorns in stereo. They create their own magic! HT-1 Klipsch Heritage (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center (serves HT-2 also) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 Klipsch THX (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation)

Very nice looking. However, they do not have the same specs as the Klipschorns which go down to 35hz while the LaScalas go to 45 hz. They do have the same components however. Never-the-less they are fabulous speakers! HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd track info, album covers, some notes and lyrics, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub (rarely use with music) Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation for components)

I recently bought a set of Monster bi-wire cables for my Klipschorns. Having the cables in a neat package with some nice screw on connectors ( especially a little flexable braid termination that slid securly into the small slots on Al's ALK crossover) was worth the aprox. $100. they cost me. They produced a significant improvement that I suspect was due more to the bi-wiring than the actual wire itself. I have found that some better quality interconnects do make a slight difference between early stage components probably due to better shielding from the power cords for my various components. I have done a-b comparisons on Monster component video cables (one set for $60.; another at $200) vs. Radio Shack Gold (at $40) and could find NO difference. HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd track info, album covers, some notes and lyrics, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub (rarely use with music) Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation for components)

Now that Klipsch has acquired a high-end pre-amp and amplifier company, I would like to see them produce a system that would deliver digital sound from a pre-amp that would contain a digital crossover circuit and deliver this output to a speaker that would contain individually amplified speaker components (either two or three way). HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd track info, album covers, some notes and lyrics, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub (rarely use with music) Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation for components)

Generally the listening position should be slightly greater than the distance between the loudspeakers, However, every room is different, the manufacturers suggested placement is the best place to start but plenty of experimentation is a good idea including toeing them in, facing them directly forward, varying distances from the wall etc. I once had a situation where the speakers actually sounded best toed out. You have to find whats best for your individual room and tastes and this can only be done by experimentation. Sometimes whats best is not practical as when a speaker ends up in the way of a door. This is yet another reason why you should attempt to arrange with the dealer to try out different models in your room before you buy. With my Klipschorns I had to use the only available corners (actually I had to move a door!) and then apply acoustical treatments (diffusion panels placed where the loudspeakers reflected off the side walls were particularly effective) to the room until I got it right! Of course if you have money to burn you can also construct an addition to your house to produce a dedicated room according to certain formulas that are available. Ill have to wait for my Lottery win to do that. HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd track info, album covers, some notes and lyrics, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub (rarely use with music) Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation for components)

I have used Vibrapods in my Living Room Home Theater system (HT-2) for some time. Before my recent purchase of the 61 projection TV, I had the equipment cabinet in the room and the Vibrapods were essential and made an audible difference (improved clarity). I now have the components outside the room but still use the vibrapods. Moving the components did not seem to make an appreciable difference attesting to the effectiveness of the Vibrapods, which are, by the way, actually a Stereophile Recommended Component. I have been meaning to get them for the basement HT components (which are also outside the room) but since the component rack rests on the concrete basement floor, I dont think much in the way of vibration reaches the components, but I might get the pods just for the hell of it. They have a web site www.vibrapod.com which contains a list of dealers They do leave marks on furniture so coasters or whatever under them are needed. HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony CX-200 CD Changer Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (4 channels of supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation)

Thanks, I find your posts interesting and informative also ...I've learned so much from this BB ....it has brought back the early excitement I had as a teenager with Hi-Fi in the 50s. Actually the basement room isn't exactly 12 X 24 due to covering pipes etc. Likewise the ceiling is not uniform due to a duct running through the center which does have the benefit of bringing heat and a/c. The ceiling is mostly 6'10". If my reading of room acoustics is correct, the fact that the dimensions are not exact multiples is a plus in preventing standing waves. ( My living room HT is 12 X 24 X 8 and the standing wave problem was acute - due to asthetics I have been limited to the corner wedges and moving the subs around. I use it now for movies and the basement system for music or music oriented DVDs or tv shows. Standing waves caused by car crashes, Godzilla, or explosions are more acceptable than while listening to music). I bought corner "wedges" from parts express as well as some other acoustical material. Made some cylendrical bass traps from a link I got off of this site. Likewise I read somewhere that egg crates as well as bookshelves stocked with varing size books made for good sound diffusers. They do ...I've stappled the egg crates to plywood boards ... I plan to spray paint them silver ...my hope is that I can make them look like a piece of modern art rather than egg crates ...if this doesn't work I'll have to spring for the highly overpriced versions ...the egg crates work ...they just look like egg crates. Difusion breaks up wall reflections making it difficult for the ear to know that walls are there ...leaving, hopefully, an effect that is more like the accoustics of the original venue. I did a lot of reading and experimenting and I really like the results sonically if not altogether esthetically. I'm yet to get into digital cameras, scanners etc. so I cann't as yet post pictures or diagrams. I hope to get to that soon. Thanks for your interest.

The LaScalas were often stacked 2 and 3 high at concerts if they each weigh 123 lbs, then one must support at least 246 lbs. Are the Belles constructed less well? HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony CX-200 CD Changer Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (4 channels of supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting

Woops Tom I forgot about your very interesting value comparisons .... I think the Heritage speakers since they have remained in production until recently may not go up in value as much as rarer therefore in more limited supply old JBLs ...should be interesting to see what happens now that certain speaker components for the Heritage series are no longer in production ... I just bought a pair of NOS K-35 Tweeters so that I can attempt to replace the diaphrams in the old ones without fear of being without if I mess up. Little nervious about it so I'm working up to it ....the new tweeters are definatly better than same models that they replace kinda confirming that especially in one tweeter something is wrong and I think its the diaphram. I have also obtained but not yet received replacement drivers for the mid horns.

Ray & Tom- The Heritage system is in a basement room I built for a HT. It is 12x24 and just contains the speakers, the monitor and a sofa. The electronics are in a seperate room. I have done a lot of experimentation with the placement of the LaScalas as surrounds and ended up with them stacked just to the rear of the sweet spot where the sofa is placed (about mid room) the upper ones are angled inward and the bottom ones (rears) fire towards the back room. I have done a lot of experimentig with absorption and diffusion wall treatments as well as with bass traps. I think I have it pretty well optimized. The next step is the Perpetual Tech speaker and room correction software - the former did wonders for $18,000 Martin-Logans at the NYC Home Entertainment Show.

Stocks aside, if you bought Klipschorns at these prices in 1974, used them for over a quarter of a century and then sold them on ebay for close to what you paid for them, I'd call that one hell of an investment. Where else could you obtain so much pleasure and enjoyment for so little? How many other consumer products could you find that would produce anywhere near so great a return on investment? HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source software selects) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony CX-200 CD Changer Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (4 channels of supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting

Bare wires are cheaper but bananna plugs are easier and quicker to disconect.

I took Bob Hartleys suggestion in his book on high-end audio equipment and bought a tube preamp (relatively low maintenance no real hot tubes, expensive output tubes, no biasing), which I then feed through my A/V receiver (solid state). He pointed out that tubes produce a mellower mid and high (works for my Khorns) but solid state does better with bass. HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony CX-200 CD Changer Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting

Thanks nice job Ive installed it on my HT computer. HT-1 Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabnet (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips TS2000 Programable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender HT#2 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3(side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Pream Outlaw 750 5 channel Amp MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Sony CX-200 CD Changer Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting

The older Heritage speakers due to the nature of the magnets in the speakers do not require shielding. I know this from experience and remember reading an explaination but forget how it went. Can anyone enlighten us? I think LaScalas could support a stack of TV monitors and I bet the Belles are just about as solid.

I recently purchased the amazing Perpetual Tech P1A Digital Correction engine that (along w/ the P3A DAC) has the capability of making regular CDs into super (24 bit 96k) CDs. Wow! Its unbelievable what is hidden on 16 bit 44.1k CDs)! The P1A also has the capacity to digitally equalize loudspeakers to eliminate the peaks and valleys in their response curves. Software for most popular speakers is in development including some Klipsch speakers. They plan to develop software for Klipschorn correction. However, they asked me to find out if different incarnations of Khorns (different crossover, components) have different response curves. Seems as if they would. Also Al K if you read this, do your ALK crossovers change the Khorns response curves? I would imagine that all these variations do but I thought it would be interesting to ask. Perpetual Tech will probably only develop software for the latest Khorns meaning that if older models or ALK modified models have different response curves then I will have to rent equipment to measure my Khorns response curves so that appropriate correction software can be generated to adjust their particular response pattern. Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever source is playing) Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling)

I got all my Heritage speakers used off the internet ... My Klipschorns like new in walnut came from a classified ad on www.audioreview.com. I upgaded them with new tweeters, new mid-range drivers and Al's great crosssovers. The Khorns cost me $1500. , the crossover upgrades $500., the tweeters and mid drivers for about $400. Better than new at a total cost of $2200. Sure beats over $6000 (incl. tax) for a new pair. ...I got a pair of LaScalas for $800. on ebay and a pair for $300 with one blown woofer which I replaced on ebay for $58. (exact match!) I now have a great surround system that far surpasses anything in todays multiplex movie theaters for a total speaker cost of about $3,500. for the Heritage speakers. For LFE on movies I use a KSW-15 (ebay) and an LH10 (ubid)at a cost of about another $1000. I had to wait for buys that were within driving distance but the wait was not long and the whole process has been a lot of fun!

The cost of my Perpetual Technologies gear that makes my CDs and Sony changers sound so great is $1099. for the P1A and $799. for the P3A. Nowhere near $24,000 or even a mere $12,000. And all I do is point and click!

Prana- The speaker correction software is not yet available for Klipschorns and I may have to use the kit they send to measure the output of unlisted, old or modified speakers. That kit as well as the room correction option is not yet available.

I found my horns on www.audioreview.com. They were listed for $1700 firm. I offered $1500. and got them. Had to rent a small truck and drive about 1 and a half hours into Mass. They are great. I'd love to see them in Rosewood. Mine look great in walnut but Rosewood must be spectacular. I had 2 very small dings which I filled with some walnut filler that can in a small tin ...virtually unnoticable even when I put the track spotlight up full on the Khorns. Welcome to the club!

I like the www.outlawaudio.com 1050 6.1 receiver with my Klipsch speakers. It is top quality, you save by buying direct over the net and it's a steal at $499. Check out the site and reviews on audioreview.com

I agree with you guys ... it's a fascinating set-up but it would definatly be improved by Klipsch speakers! I have read that bookshelves with books of different sizes make for a great difussion effect ...I wonder whether his wall of bookcases loaded with media works the same.