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About ned

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    Santa Fe NM
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    playing guitar, skiing, cycling, GED and citizenship tutoring, trying to exhaust my 3 year old blue heeler
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    Technics SP-15, Grado Platinum or Gold with 8MZ stylus , Parasound P6 and A23+, Tascam "Pro" transport, 1979 Klipshorns in a 24x15 room with +9' ceilings. I used to run solid state and class D (Marantz 7t into Teac) in the summer. Parasound is the new summer system. Fisher 400C pre, Fisher 200 monos The Fisher rig will reappear in the winter - the 50lbs mono blocks put out more heat than my fireplace.

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  1. Steaming and CDs both require digital audio conversion. You might put some thought into getting a good DAC and using the CD player just as a transport. Something to consider.
  2. Thanks Outfitter - the combo is definitely not fatiguing. I am happy listening at a pretty good volume indefinitely. I am not sure about warmth, just seems very clean and true to the source. Sounds complete at low volumes too which is great when people insist on chatting or eating meals. Last night I listened through many of the RVG Kenny Burrell offerings on iTunes and small combo jazz was really vivid. Where he plays with Jimmy Smith - guitar and organ - was great. There was great distinction in the register that those two voices share. Super fun.
  3. That looks like a great amp. My high school girlfriend's folks had SAE running into JBLs hanging from the ceiling and it was the first real hifi I heard (c. 1980). Looks like fun.....
  4. Hi Tarheel, I bought the P6 first and rolled some amps by it. I thought I was buying a front end for the ST-70 but the old iron didn't seem like it was keeping up with the P6. Hard to explain but it seemed to be missing snap - quickness. The $100 Teac chip amp sounded pretty good. It has low mid control but it is pretty bright through a mid horn. Also, on a song like Can You Hear Me Knocking - Sticky Fingers - when there is a big dynamic change (and is there ever!), it doesn't have the umph. That's at drinking volume. I wanted more. Then I got the P23+ because it had a big transformer and a big bank of capacitors. I figured that that what the digital amp and the Dyna were missing. They're probably missing much more but that's all I know. My world changed. I hope you like the pre as I do. it alone made a big difference in sound and enjoyment. As I said on a different thread, I heard the acoustic guitar on Link Wray's Rumble. Turns out it plays through the whole song on the P6 and a budget amp. ned
  5. No. MM. I have a variety of grado carts and seem to prefer the gold with an 8mz stylus over the platinum right now.
  6. ned

    Lost my brother today

    I am sorry. Must be very hard for you and your family. Puts a lot of things in perspective. My thoughts are with you. N
  7. Hi everyone, Thought a quick impression of my new system might be of interest. Over the last couple of weeks I've integrated a new P6 and an A23+ into my system. It was an instant upgrade to my phono stage, my DAC, my CD player and my horns. I am impressed. I now have a big sound stage with remarkable imaging. Voices and instruments have space around them and clarity I have not heard before. There is an airiness that is present at all volumes from a whisper to more than too loud. The sound is really remarkable. Records that I previously thought of being noticeably compressed (Eddie Harris Exodus, VJ; Bowie Low, RCA; Modern Lovers, Bezerkly) are now spread out, untangled, and not overwhelmed by the low mid range. The distinction of various sounds is very musical and still adds up to a whole The KHorns (big room, good corners) always produced a balanced range of frequencies, but the new clarity makes them really fun. Over the years, I stepped up through RF3s, Cornwalls and 15 years ago got the horns. My electronics have lagged a bit. My philosophy was a great cartridge and great speakers would make for a great system. I've run massive Fisher monos (200s, the last of the 50a series) from the Fisher 400 stereo pre, Marantz 7t into AudioSource or Teac A-l700P, and Adcom 555II into an unrestored ST-70) andI thought everything sounded good. It all really did sound good and there were enjoyable differences between each iteration. I'll get the Fishers serviced and put them back into service this winter. It will be interesting to see what the difference is. Everything sounds better and more musical today. I did a late night blast of James Brown's "How Long" (Prisoner of Love, King) and despite the radical dynamic range, the equipment took me on a perfect ride. Mr. Brown never sounded better. If you know the recording, you know that it would be a place to find sag, distortion and sibilance, and I heard none. Julie London (Julie, mono Liberty) sounded like she was 4 feet in front of me and her small combo just behind her. Imaging in mono? I was delighted to find it. One of the best recorded pieces of vinyl in my library of ~4k albums. I love that the DAC is fed by USB (my Mac), Opitical (Tascam Pro is now just a transport via optical) and that the pre and amp are connected with balanced interconnects). The only RCA connection is coming from my Technics SP-15. How cool is that? Aesthetically, I am very pleased. My only complaint is that the source knob is small and a little fiddly for my taste (the buttons on the remote are fine, but I wander over to the pre) and that the lights indicated what source is selected are indented and not visible when I am standing at my system. I need to bend down to see what source is selected. It could be worse and I count 4 clicks between phono and usb and that works fine now that I am used to it. The momentary muting while the source changes is really nice. There are lots of nice details like that - bypasible tone controls, a trigger between the pre and the amp (one button on and off), two different volume memories and perfect black silence at idle that I really like. I think these products are really well designed for using, looking at, and for listening. I am sorry that I cannot compare them to anything more familiar to this group, I haven't bought or listened to new gear for a long time. I don't have any cause to now. I am really satisfied with the sound in my home. The A23+ runs class A up to 3 watts or so (according to Parasound) and I don't think I exceed that by much too often. The amp feels only slightly warm to the touch after hours of listening at festive levels. The signature of my sound remains the horns but they are certainly benefitting from good clean articulate signal. Thanks for reading, Ned
  8. Phil Jackson at Parasound included the following in an email: The +6dB gain is a result of the implementation of balanced circuitry given the hot/neutral/ground connections of the balanced cable. There is no issue with the gain of either the preamp or the amp with respect to using the balanced cables. With your sensitive corner horns you will want to use the gain control pots on the rear panel of the A23+ to turn DOWN the output of the amp so the volume control of the P 6 is smooth and consistent. I would anticipate that, give you are using sensitive speakers, you will be doing most of your listening in Class A as the transition point is at the 2-3 watt mark. : Thank you babadono for your interest in research. At this point, I see creating a common ground between the pre and the amp as being the real benefit of the interconnects. N
  9. Well that is confusing. There seems to be a general consensus - including the good people at Parasound by email, around the 6db number. I'll reply on what I hear when the needle hits the groove. N
  10. Thanks Khornukopia - Amp should arrive today and my dealer will lend me fancy RCAs and balanced ICs. They have no direct recommendation apart from asking me to use my ears in my room. I look forward to a lost weekend. I'll report back. excellent!
  11. Thanks Don, I appreciate the response. You have a better sense of things than I do. My concern is almost exactly the opposite. I've never overdriven an amp with Klipsch. (I started with the RF line, then Cornwalls and now the stately corner horn) The Parasound A23+ starts to engage A/B around 3 watts*. This is often more than I use with the KHorns. If my goal were to get 85dbs at 3 watts, would using balanced connections (and gaining 6db as a result) help me stay in class A? I guess my question is, will I get more volume and better sound at the same low wattage using balanced inputs? Should I care about A vs. A/B? Thanks again for the reply. Ned P.S. the A23+ produces 160 watts per channel into 8 ohms and so I have pleeeeeenty of headroom. *I learned this number from Parasound who is very responsive to my OCD driven questions about the amp. I ordered one today from my local brick-and-mortar audio crack house.
  12. Haven't heard the P5 but, I have some hours on the P6 and I think its great. Very light and transparent. The sound is quick and clear. From bass to treble, well presented and precise. Lots of room between voices. First time I noticed the acoustic guitar on the Link Wray masterpiece "Rumble." One of many tunes I thought of being muddy in the bass (including many RCA recording c. 1980) that ended up with more articulation than I knew on both on vinyl and streaming (not comparing the ones marked as remastered). Using phono stage and the DAC through USB and optical. It is the first modern piece I've had in many years and I am thrilled. I am going to order the A23+ tomorrow. A little gift to my KHorns. Sounds great at low volumes too. Not the case with some of my vintage gear.
  13. ned

    Single k33b

    Shameless bump just to keep in the search results. Please buy the 1969 first, then mine.
  14. Hi eveyone - After years of vintage hifi I just made a leap. I just bought a Parasound P6 and I am digging it. I may review it elsewhere. I am using its DAC via USB for streaming, its optical for my CD transport and its phono pre for a grado on a technics into a pair of 1979 KHorns. The KHorns remain the signature of my great sound whatever gear I run . Here is my question: Using balanced outputs and inputs between a P6 and an A 23+ adds 6db according to the amp manual. I am curious if this has any effect on when the amp moves from "A" to "A/B". Does the increase in volume come from the circuitry of the pre or the amp? Do I get 6db for "free" from the pre? I don't expect I'll use more than the first few of the 160 watts that the amp puts out. Should I even care about whether the amp is running in A or A/B? Thank you for any thoughts you have. I am enjoying the modern world. Ned
  15. Well, I'll hijack it then. What Marvel posted above is indeed Kokopelli. I misidentified Rivernuggets avatar, it is actually the man in the maze image. There is an explanation here https://m.warpaths2peacepipes.com/native-american-symbols/symbol-of-life.htm And Marvel, how did you recall a posting from a year ago? Great. N
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