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i see you still have an XPA-5 nezff haha. We shall call them emo eyes.

damn trolls!

If you retain your stock headunit, you can get a line out converter and then get an outboard amp and speakers or just get a new deck, retain the current wiring and power the speaker off the new deck. $300 is a slim budget for a new deck and speakers. Can it be done? Yeah......but i think itd be really really tough. It sounds like you have components in the front since you said you have dash speakers. I would confirm that you actually have dash speakers first since a lot of cars have grills for speakers but it may or may not have it depending on the speaker package you bought. You can buy authorized from say crutchfield or from sites like woofersetc which is more caveat emptor. Woofersetc will save you money but your warranty....mehhhhh, expect to not really have one unless they are actually authorized to sell certain products. You need to be careful of the drivers you choose to use. A lot of OEM speakers are like mini-subs and hit lows that a lot of aftermarket speakers won't hit. Keep that in mind, its important because i dont want you to be disappointed.

I like Harman Kardon for stereo receivers. Albeit, there are a ton of awesome stereo receivers out there, HK is my go to. They are also the brand of the first receiver ever made! Just cool history associated with the brand. My HK that sits in my office has been going for about 13 year now and still sounds as wonderful as the day my dad got it for me. I would get the HK 3439 http://www.harmankardon.com/estore/hk/us/products/HK-3490/HK%203490_HK_US?skuId=HK%203490_HK_US&searchMode=regularProductOnly if i had to buy a new receiver.

My Denon 3808ci was $1800 back in 2007. 6 whole years ago! I bought it used from craigslist in 2010 or so. It supports all modern audio codecs, has better room EQ software than many new offerings, and has yet to have a single technical issue. The only things it lacks for modern technology is is 3D (wasteful fad), 4k (the rest of the gear is too expensive), and current integrated streaming apps (stupid to have those in your receiver). It has Rhapsody built in, but who uses that? Everything changes rapidly for SubXero because he's constantly changing out components and not giving his ears enough time to find synergy between any of it. Do your research, be slow to purchase, buy with confidence, and enjoy the gear for years to come - regardless of how much it is. Thaddeus, that's a pretty bold statement. It is true that I have gone through a lot of equipment and speakers over the course of a few years but it was to seek out that which pleases me most. My ear have found synergy with what I have and they are quite discerning. When i find equipment that I like, I tend to keep things for a long time, processors included. I have had my trials an tribulations with things breaking and I have gone a route that I was fortunate to have been afforded to me in the past. Its a route that allows a higher level of customization and flexibility and makes it easier to replace and or fix components that break or upgrade. Thaddeus, you bought an $1,800 receiver used for how much in 2010? Someone had already bitten the bullet for you and you probably got it for a good price. Its true, I have older receivers too and they don't have any HDMI and basically become a slave with just an optical input being used with the TV being a route for HDMI inputs. They are good units but are limited in usability because of their age. When/if they break, it won't be worth fixing because they are functionally obsolete. Technology moves at an incredibly fast pace and if you are someone who is very current with technology, upgrading and compatibility is always a concern. All i am bringing to the table here are statistics of trends i've noticed in the plethora of reviews i've read and my personal opinions. I am also making suggestions to guide this person in determining what he needs. My time is precious and I am not about to waste it on someone that I can't judge deserves it or not.

Which onkyo, denon or harman kardon you can recommend? my budget is just around 1,000. what RMS per channel should I be looking for? I noticed you have pc12 ultra. do you think SVS pc12-nsd is good for my setup. my short list for the sub is now pair of SVS PB-1000 or SVS PB12-NSD OR 1 SVS pc12-nsd OR 1 SW 115 For me, spending more than $600 on a receiver is a bit nuts considering how quickly technology changes and if something goes in the amp or processor, the whole unit has to get repaired for who knows how much if its even worth repairing. Usually repairs get spendy quickly when it goes to the big manufacturers like denon, marantz onkyo, sony, rotel etc. For my 2 channel rotel receiver, its $150 to look at it and you have to preauthorize up to $150 in repairs, so possibly $300 out the door off the bat and it was for a unit that was already like 6+ years old. Granted, i still have it haha, and it doesnt really function but I want to fix it eventually, just because its a nice and heavy unit. Quality made. I am hesitant to give you an opinion on which receiver you should get because I don't really have time to go through it with a fine toothed comb and research tons of reviews. I am huge into researching things before i make a purchase so i need to ask, are you just looking for a recommendation and hoping for the best or are you also trying to research these units in depth and have questions about them that you aren't asking? Everyone has a different interest level in audio. Some just want good sound and want it to work with no real interest in the nitty gritty while others like myself want to know everything, research and then ask opinions on specific units that they have deemed worthy and are looking for anyone with real world experience with those specific models. I often have to take chances on my purchases as no one has had experience with them and I rely on what pieces of good info I can find on the web. I would also consider Marantz as an option. If you say you just want a recommendation then we at least know that we should do some research because you haven't done much or any before we recommend something. It should go without saying but Caveat Emptor. When it comes to multichannel power output of a receiver, most receivers see a heavy drop in power output with all channel driven, many times it's 30%-50% reduction. The class D amps in receivers seem to be on the higher end of output. Most of the advertising is done at 1 or 2 channels and only for a certain frequency band of say 1khz-20khz so you have to try and match apples to apples when possible. Its sort of a dim view on receivers but its the truth. For the majority of end users, receivers are fine and the end user is none the wiser so they have their place within the market. There used to be a huge gap between receivers and separates (amp/processor combos) but in recent years with Outlaw Audio and Emotiva emerging in the markets, separates are much more affordable and in some cases actually cheaper than a receiver or the same prices for those higher end receivers. Klipsch speakers are very efficient which makes them easier to pair with receivers. Think of klipschs efficiency as a crutch for the deficiency in power abilities of most receivers. For the most part, you get really good performance out of a receiver with klipsch speakers. Other brands of speaker with sub 90db inefficiencies start to strain a receiver much more easily. If you can score a receiver with actual multi-channel output of 65-75 watts you'd be in a good power range. As for the subs, I best you that 2 PB12-NSD or 2 PC12-NSD would do you well in your size room. They have an awesome trial program that you should read up on or even call SVS and ask them for their opinions, they are quite honest. My 2 PC12-Ultras make it sound like king kong in the house sometimes and they have awesome depth. My room is also twice the volume of your room so I need some additional umph.

i didnt know this was you!! ive been staring at your ad for days ahaha. The RC-3II goes for about $150 tops and more commonly sells for $125 in my experience and ive sold like 3 or 4 of them. I sold my rf-5s about 2 years ago for $750 but it took a bit.

i decked out my 2012 challenger a bit. I am running some KAR series ARC Audio amps which are hybrid class A/B G/H amps which are running an IB 8" dayton audio sub in my rear deck and i have my Hybrid Audio Imagine series 6x9's running active and component style for my front stage (i dont have any rear stage bu the IB sub). I have a Pioneer DEH-80PRS deck which allows me to run a 3 way active network. I am quite happy with what i have chosen especially when it comes to my amps. They are dead silent when it comes to floor noise, super efficient and sound excellent, well worth every dime. The Hybrid Audio Imagine 6x9's are excellent well rounded speakers with a great low end. HAT is a good company and makes a top notch speaker albeit their site kinda sucks.

off the cuff after brief review, the onkyo looks good. I am a harman kardon guy and that one you selected uses class D amplifier technology which is why it is on the lighter side of things. The denon is also worth considering. I know you said you only want a receiver but i will tell you this, an outboard amp is quite possibly the best thing you can do for your speakers and will outlast your processor 3 to 1 if its a quality one assuming an almost 20 year life expectancy if not longer. just some food for thought. As for subs, there are tons of brands to choose from. SVS sold me on their in home trial and their reputation which was nothing but tried and true when i got my subs. I had 2 faulty amps in a row on my one sub and it was practically replaced with maybe 1 question asked and that was "what is wrong with it". It was an absolute pleasure. Their sledge amps also get enormously high praise. BAM, i was sold. I wanted a company that i felt would be around for a while and they were it. I looked at rythmik audio but didn't get the warm an fuzzies like SVS gave me. Rythmik feels more like the DIYer you are on your own type deal which i didnt want. HSU makes good subs but use foam surrounds on their higher end subs which tend to degrade quicker over time than rubber surrounds. Foam has good damping characteristics but i prefer a rubber/butyl rubber. Epik is another brand but it didnt really impress me. The svs subs you are looking at are good choices. I like dual subs because it helps keep room response even although you can still mget good response with one sub. Check out their cylinders too for smaller footprint with the same performance, i heart mine.

Klipsch ahould have them and my guess is 35 each or 45 each

Your setup is a good start for sure. Id look at other brands for subs unless you just want to stick with klipsch. Looking elsewhere will get you more boom for the buck. I like 12 gauge wiring and I use banana plugs. I buy monoprice speaker wire, its cheap and just wire. Monster doesnt make any better of a product IMO. I just bought 250ft of 12 gauge one channel cl2 rated wire and 100ft of cl2 biwire from monoprice for my inceiling install. Buy cl2 as its fire rated for inwall install. You dont need cl2 if you are just running it along walls and stuff. I like my emotiva rca's personally and think they are better than the monoprice digital coax but thats up for debate. As for power, speakers are rated at rms which is the max power recommend ed be put to the speakers consistantly and then a max wattage for those dynamic peaks which are reached only in short bursts. Generally its nice to have headroom which is a power reserve over the rms. Its nice to have 50 watts over rms for transistor amps bur thats more a personal guideline if I can help it. I run 125 watts of true power from my power amp and that makes my rf7's sing for days and I am under the rms wattage as far as ppowr output goes. Media is dynamic so that means the signal will be amplified dynamically which means your speakers will be driven with varying amounts of power which then hinges on the amplitude of volume qith which you want to listen at. I am on my phone and cant review your receiver selection at this time but will try later. As for speakers, you can use floorstanding or on wall bookshelf or dedicated surrounds. This really depends on layout and furniture in your room. I went with in ceiling as my room depth is about 15 feet and my couch is against the wall and it quite big.

Thats a great setup so far!

Ok good!

Yeah speaker power wire as in amp to speaker

Im thinking this should be alright. I domt have much choice due to the in wall runs. Anyone got some input?

do the hypex amps bench well? I never really view them for non-sub usage

bah! hole saw, speaker cup, 10 minutes, done

When i redid the heresys i actually took off the back and the motorboard. The motorboard is stapled in there so you may or may not actually want to remove it. I removed the rear panel when i drilled the hole to ensure the drivers didnt get dusty. I would probably go over the enclosures with some 250+ grit sandpaper and smooth is out as much as possible. Get a good quality oil based stain and then seal it with oil based poly. I have used water-based for both on stuff and I am sorry, oil based always gives the best finishes. I chose high gloss and it came out great! If you can do spray poly, thats even better because it would come out super even and you can get a lot of coats on it easier. Final sheen is a choice for you to make though I have two svs subs and I love them. I find putting them right next to my towers on the inside gives me some good even bass

Ill have to find some pictures. I had a pair of heresys that i refinished. I took the screw downs off and then drilled a hole with a hole saw and put in round speaker post cup. Simple and easy. Keep in mind, if you fudge up the sound, you can always run the calibration program again.

When I tune, i try and tune by ear. MY process is a long one though. I initially set everything to zero and then tune as i watch media. This process can take weeks sometimes. What i tune to is also personal preference and not that of predetermined software. Level tuning is the easiest of all things. Tuning the EQ band is when things get a lot more hairy and is where audessey and such become a HUGE help. Almost every movie and/or show i watch, i will adjust the trim levels of the channels depending on what the media is. That is one characteristic of the Emotiva UMC-1 that i absolutely love. When the processor turns off, all of the trims go away and go to what your hard settings are which would be what you leveled everything out to be. Trims are temporary changes. My last word of advice is, don't care about what the actual level numbers are. That is irrelevant. What matters is what you hear and if what you is what you want. Tune accordingly and listen on!

SVS makes an awesome sub. You would be hard pressed to find something better for their sizes. There are a lot of equal contenders out there (equal being relative of course) but they have a rock solid warranty, excellent customer service and a good in-home trial program, oh, not to mention the upgrade program. I have a 3,300 cuft room that is open to our kitchen and my svs subs make it sound like king kong in the club and I have them tuned to 16hz. Reasonably, at some level, the bass just doesnt mesh with the source and sounds out of place. I am a bass junky but i think things to mesh with movies. Music, well, let me crank some Derb and jack the bass.

I had the series 1 42's and for their size, they performed well for what they were. You arent buying them for a full service stereo experience though. I found myself over exerting their abilities while on full range just watching a movie at normal volume. Nome the less they have algood sound. Hopefully your neighbor will be pleased

if you plan to run your 82's with a crossover of 80hz and up, a receiver will be just fine because that would mean you'd have a dedicated sub for the low end. Most of us have noticed the sluggish bass when it comes to receivers, Now, don't get me wrong, you'll get good bass and until you hear them tuned properly on a dedicated amp, you'd be none the wiser. the pioneer sc series is good and you get very close to rated power. Marantz, denon and onkyo will do you well and i have owned all of them. My favorite though is Harmon Kardon

Here is the finished product with all of the drivers set in the ceiling. What a dog this was. Tons of crawling back and forth to ensure correct fitment and that i didn't hit any AC wires. One of the speakers is close to about 6 AC power lines, eeps! I have to build some Styrofoam enclosures as recommended by Klipsch tech support when i called to help keep the drivers free of debris. I have blown cellulose insulation up there and that crap gets everywhere. They also recommended i make the enclosures 1.5 cuft or larger to maintain the IB specs so that's just what i will do. I still have to paint the grills to match and actually snake the wiring. I have more crawling to do up there and this time i need a mask for sure. I'll tell you this, my body hurts. I mean, everywhere. From being an attic ninja to working above my head, my upper-body feels like it just got beat up by a bodybuilder. I worked about 13 hours straight almost. This project isn't for the lazy and I hope my hard work pays off in the end. I am trying to get this all done before family comes out on the 20th so its a bit of a hustle.

http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/975.html - you can get a combo package for processor and amp at $1100 with 75 watts x 7 and bi amp the 7's or get the beefier 7125 model like I have but is more costly. or http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/upa200 for your 82's woofers and http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/upa500 for the 82's tweeters and all your other speakers with a http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/processors/products/umc200 or just get http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/processors/products/umc200 and http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/upa700 and bi-amp your 82's with the 6th and 7th channel These are of course at the high end of your budget but once you start getting into the $1000 range, you are so close to being able to do separates and you may want to wait to take the plunge.