Dave A

Nothing at this time. All of a sudden my welding and machining side has taken off and this past month has seen little done with audio anything.

No other than not DOA.

Roy did have a 4 channel Cinema amp and that is in part what got me to thinking about these. I can get a pair of QSC CX1202V for $219 each and that ia a mountain of power IF they are good sounding amps. I have some 415lf bins here and I just don't think the Crown XLI800's are up to making these sound right. Plus I have some builds coming up where I want to be able to prove to interested parties that what I have is serious. I might have to point them out the door to crank them up to those levels but that's what big rollup doors are for. I get musicians by at times and they want to know what things will do.

Does anyone have any opinions on a QSC CX1202V amp Or QSC in general? I was looking at Crown because I like them but I despise the country they are made in. QSC says made in USA. Are there other pro amps mage in the USA?

Getting info on the early pro speakers can be a real job.

They sent me a text message saying they could not handle the methane not the halitosis.😁

You better be real careful as you never know how thin the veneer is and once you sand through it you are screwed. Caps that old are always bad, period. EBay sells strips of heat and bond Walnut veneer to repair front edge damage. You might have to get a wood dye kit to match the color of aged Walnut though.

I am noticing more and more people who want ask questions about things like my tweeters who refuse to talk. We get into back and forth on emails and days pass and some progress is made but not as much as five minutes of phone time would do. The questions trickle in and then you answer and then the questions trickle back in and on and on it goes for days. I give them phone numbers to call and since they don't use them my assumption is that they do not want to talk to an actual human. At some point in time I just quit and say call me if you wish to continue this and then that is the last I hear from most of them. Have any of you noticed the same thing and how do you handle it? Personally I am getting to the point where if you cant pick up the phone and call me I am not going to spend hours with messages back and forth. I just don't understand people who live in text messages as their world and won't communicate in any other way.

As Jimbo says Watco is what I use and it is what Klipsch recommended. I don't remember where I read that tip from Klipsch but that is what they recommended.

OK my curiosity was aroused this morning and I decided to double check the CH 1 crossover. There are differences and it is not just one thing and this is true with the CH 2 and 301 2 also. I had forgotten how much difference there was. These crossovers have been downloaded here and elsewhere and if my memory serves me well when I have had actual crossovers in hand they agree with the schematics.

KP-301 II crossover KP-301 I crossover

True and Klipsch has not used real Baltic Birch on any speaker I have ever had from them. Birch veneered plywood yes but not real BB.

I have asked myself the same question and it would not seem that a ceramic resistor would change things but look at the watt ratings. I can't explain technically why but I can share my experience having owned all these variants. The cabinet is the same volume but not the same exact shape and that along with the crossover are the only two things different that I see.

Never used anything but Duratex. You can even buy tintable base and have something besides black.

Re-reading this thread this morning and thinking of what you said. The pro line is engineered differently to have more headroom than regular speakers. What this has translated to for me is that I have at least the same fidelity as the regular speakers do but there is more authority in what I hear. The bass does not go just thump but boom too even though technically they may be playing at the same hz. I have really migrated to Cello music lately and it seems the resonance of the strings just comes through better with pro gear. Same notes same recording same amps I would rather the 301 any day. The pro speakers also have the ability it seems to me to have a wider sweet spot and also overwhelm a bad acoustic environment better. I would encourage you to NOT replace the crossover but instead recap it. I would not worry about trying to duplicate a Chorus when I just might have something better in hand already. I need to find one of those old cloth grille sets. Talking about them makes me miss them.

In the for what it is worth category. I have owned all the 301 and Chorus variants. My favorite is the older 301 with the cloth grilles and no Ti anything. Next is the Chorus I because they respond so well to recaps and tweeter upgrades plus being front ported they can go anywhere and sound the same. Then the Chorus II and finally the 301 II. I am not a fan of the K-792 at all. Of them all the one I still regret letting go of was a cloth grille early 301. I let them go to a pair of Musicians from Nashville after they made a ridiculous offer on them I could not refuse. They wanted to hear them wide open and my amp was 200 watts per channel and the speaker said it could handle that. What the heck I thought all I can do is have something to fix. I put hearing protection on and pegged the amp and they stood there with silly grins on their faces as they reached for their wallets. Very serious speaker for it's size.

There won't be any scary people there will there?

Hey Carl, will there be a safe space at SWAG?

Cats and accidents sure are though.

Alright found it. Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, BWV 565 · E. Power Biggs · Johann Sebastian Bach The 50 Greatest Classical Masterpieces ℗ 1961 Sony Music Entertainment Released on: 2014-05-09 It's the version you heard here.

E Power Biggs and I don't know which album.

Toccata and Fugue in D Minor ;D Cleans the dust out as an additional benefit.

Well you can hardly go wrong with either of them. Chorus/301's are my favorites above all the rest for that time period. Only until the CW4 did Klipsch make a better comparable cabinet speaker.

The 2's are forward compared to the older ones. My very favorite ones are the cloth grille type from the late 80's. Recapped and retweeted and those things are stellar.

Please tell me you did not actually power wash these with water. If you are going to tinker with the design I would only do it to one at a time and see what it does. Recapping the crossovers is always #1 on the list for anything I get. The Chorus crossovers ARE NOT the same as the 301's. The 301's are rated at 200watt and Chorus at 100watt and there are differences in the crossover. I thought the K-792 and the mids were already Ti diaphragms. Am I remembering wrong?