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I agree with mdeneen. Go for the claim, and push back hard if they try to lowball or deny a settlement.

Frankly, with a couple of minor exceptions, I've thought that most folks have been on pretty good behavior for the last month or so....unless I've missed some good mud-slinging! Welcome Amy.

Recently got a new DVD/SACD player, so this is a new frontier of exploration for me: are the DAC's better in my Phillips player or my Marantz receiver/processor? So far, the jury is still out. They both sound different, but not enough to make a case for either just yet. I think I still need to get the bass management settings on the Phillips right for this to be a fair comparison.

There is no fix for this at all. Popping the grills will only make it worse. You must immediately get rid of them by selling them to me! Really, play with these a bit, and you might find the sweet spot. These do "beam" a bit, so correct placement and toe in for the desired listening position is essential. Once you get them set up right, I'm sure you'll be pleased. If not, I'll take them off your hands!

You're right, Mark. For those less talented with a soldering iron, I know that there is an outfit out there that makes these types of "filtering" RCA plugs. I can't remember the name of the company right now, but maybe someone here will chime in. ---------------- On 4/22/2004 7:45:52 AM mdeneen wrote: It would be much easier to just connect a little filter to the INPUT side of your amp. You can do it right on an RCA plug. For 72Hz, use a 0.047uF cap in series with the (+) and use a 47k 1/2W resistor from (+) to (). mdeneen ----------------

Just threw $27 into the pot (a couple bux extra to cover any Paypal fees). Wanted to pass along my thanks to the guy who turned me on to how good vintage HK gear sounds with vintage Klipsch. Thanks!

Remeber that in any 5.1 system, the center channel and the L/R channels are doing most of the work: dialog and soundstage width. The rears most of time, with some notable exceptions, are for effects, and adding some depth to the sound stage. Better to spend the money on the front L/R and center channels. I'd go direct radiator in the rears as well. If you decide that you want to upgrade later, you'll have a good set of speakers that can be used in a second (maybe 2 channel) system at a later time, or sold. But I tend to think that you'll be happier in the long run w/o the WDST's in the rears, as it may give you more flexibility.

It would be useful to know what you are using as front L/R and center. I have RF-7's up front. I really think that RF-7 rears would be overkill, and my room dimensions are not too different than yours. The money is probably better spent elsewhere, IMHO.

---------------- On 4/14/2004 12:24:59 PM IndyKlipschFan wrote: My only draw back as these rooms are so designed for one two people max. And in that we also lose out of the community of sharing music with others too. It would be a shame IMO if your music room became an oversized closet.....with say one magnificent painting on the wall...a glass of wine... and unbelieveable system to just have an "eargasm". ---------------- An "eargasm"? That's a good one!

The common thread in these responses is that individual preference is the ultimate variable. Its really not about whether home HT is "good" or "bad", its what each person finds that they enjoy, and then choose to maximazde their investment in gear accordingly. I'm have been searching for the holy grail of a "do all" system - one that I am comfortable listening to both music with, and watching movies with. That system truly is a set of compromises: - the room isn't perfect for HT - the room is just OK for music - the equipment leans toward multi channel reproduction, but I'm using an external amp and leaving the processor on "source direct" when I listen to stereo music - the RF-7's have the capability of doing both movies and music well, and I am saving my hard earned ducats for a Dean G crossover mod later this year - my system has the capability for mutli channel music, though I've found little multi channel source material that reproduces music that I enjoy listening to For my dedicated 2 channel system, I'm going to be using a "modded" Sansui 9090 and a pair of RF-3's in the basement. The mods on the Sansui include updating and removing capacitors with quality Black Gates, including those in the phono section, tweaking the FM, etc. Should sound like new and give modern stuff a run for the money. I'll probably end up listening to my 2 channel system as much as my HT system for music, but the HT system will handle almost all of the video/HT duties. In any case, I'm sticking with 5.1 for the foreseeable future. I must say, though, that the tweaking of a 5.1 system - speaker placement, level settings, etc., can be maddening enough. I can't imagine the additional heartache that a 7.1 system would bring!

Wow, here are a couple of completely different takes on the movie "The Alamo": http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=businessNews&storyID=4805230 and http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=598&e=1&u=/nm/20040412/film_nm/leisure_boxoffice_dc Kind of makes you wonder: If Disney really is on its last legs as the entertainment and media empire that is is, or once was, and If the critics really see movies the way the rest of America does. In any case, if the movie is running into stiff competition for view dollars at the box office, it does not appear to be "holding its own".

Flynn - did you ever get around to listening to the CSN CD with your upsampler? I must admit to becoming a believer on this topic as well. Listened to one of my all time favorites yesterday - ELP's Works Vol I. Crappy CD that to me has always been virtaully unlistenable. To make matters worse, the recording/mastering of the original was far from perfect in my opinion. The upsampler at least made this CD much more listenable and enjoyable, crappy recording aside. I'll listen to it more tonight. ---------------- On 4/11/2004 11:20:07 PM Audio Flynn wrote: Rick, Break down and buy a Sony ES player and the upsampling will not be required +++++++++++++++++ I dislike Sony! No apologies will ever be made. Companies bent on monopoloies deserve to fail. I have bought 4 of their components in the past 5 years.CD, DVD, and TV. SACD can, and will, be a reason for Sony to poorly master CD audio in the peresent and the near past. Meridian and DVD-A have little to gain by this software profit windfall. ================= You guys high jacked my thread on a legitimate issue in digital audio. I generally offer more respect. For all the money you SACD guys spent on software you could have acquired upsampling hardware. And at least found out where it is at. I am not a disbeliveer in SACD or DVD-A (of which I own); but why abandon your CD collections? If you spend a couple of grand on SACD software without upsampling your CDs; you miss the potential of digital technology. ----------------

For me, now that I've heard the results first hand, the CD Upsampling feature is critical for any future player that I'd pick up. I've not seen this feature much on anything other than Philips players, but I'm sure that someone will jump in here if there is another manufacturer including this feature on their players. I am aware that Sherwood Newcastle is including a CD upsampling feature on their new Home Theater Pre/Pro. Greg: That Phillips unit caught my attemtion. It includes the upsampling feature, and would be an interesting replacement to my current multi disk CD player. I would be very curious to do a side by side comparison and see what the results would be between that unit with upsampling and my pricer (at least when I bought it in 2000) Adcom GCD 700. Mike

An Adcom GCD 700 can be found used these days for about $200 - $250. Great sounding multi disc player. Check Audiogon.com.

Flynn - Let me know if your thoughts on this are the same as mine. Hell, even David Crosby sounded good upsampled!

---------------- On 4/9/2004 11:31:32 AM leok wrote: Nice having CDs sound so good isn't it? Leo ---------------- Good Lord, yes!!

TBABB - at less than 1/2 the price of the Sony model you indicated, the Philips represents an outstanding value from a price/performance perspective, in my humble opinion. Leok - I think I understand a bit better now. Thank you. I played around with the upsampling settings. To me, so far, setting for 96k seems to work out better than 192K for sound quality. Does that/should that make sense?

Hope that this is not construed as beating a dead horse, as this post also includes a question: I decided to take the advice of Leok and others, and bought a 963. Found it on the net, reconditioned, for around $370. My current DVD is going downstairs into a 2 channel system I'm putting in our newly refinished basement. My 963 arrived yesterday, and was hooked into my main system. I'm using the 6 channel inputs, and picked up a couple of SACD's last night for the fun of it. I did check out the SACD's first. First was James's Taylor's "JT", and it sounded, to me, close enough to my vinyl copy as to be almost indistinguishable. I checked out a couple more SACD's, and had fun with these as well. Found out that I'm still not a big fan of multi-channel music mixes, though SACD does it better than other formats, IMHO. I was astonished, however, at just how wonderful my CD's sounded on this player. This "upsampling" thing is remarkable. For example, I listened to Crosby Stills and Nash: CSN. I must say that this is probably one of those albums that has found its way to my turntable or CD's MANY, MANY times since the late '70's. Listening to it on the Philips was like I was hearing it for the first time. Question - can anyone explain to this "non-techie" what upsampling truly is, and why it has such a remarkable impact on my old CD's? I think I'm going to be hanging on to this player for some time to come! Thanks to all for their good reccomendations on this unit!

If you think you might want to part with the dbx 3bx, I've been looking for one. PM me or email me at whell@email.com if you're interested.

I've had the HK 730 now for a few months and have been running it with everything from RF-3's to KG 2.5's. Heck of alot of sound for the money! My unit has a phono section that, IMHO, leave something to be desired. Not quite the sound that I had hoped for when used with my 2 channel system - my new Marantz Int Amp, and my Sansui 9090 were much better, But, if you're not into vinyl, its a great opportunity to have a system that makes your Klipsch sound great for not much $$$. One other critique of the 730, at least the one I've got, is the limited sensitivity of the FM section. When you're able to get a station tuned in, it sounds fine. But you really need a strong signal to get the station in Stereo. Don't know if anyone else has had any similar experiences, or if this is just a bugaboo with my unit.

They're having a hot dog sale at 7-11. Two dogs for 99 cents. You can add free chili and cheese sauce if you wish, and..... ...oops. Sorry Trey.

My RF-7's were 2nd hand, so I got them broken in. My RF-3's started coming into their own after about a week of being used 8 - 10 hours/day.

Caught him again a few days ago on a PBS re-broadcast of one of his shows from a couple of years ago. He has a wonderful voice, and usually brings a tear or two to my wife's eye.

And, FWIW, do avoid purchasing from an on line retailer who is not an authorized Klipsch dealer.

I don't own RF-35's, but I do have RF-3's and RF-7's. I have them both running bi-wire. Does it make a substantial difference? No. Probably the easiest "tweak" for any of these speakers would be to remove the crappy brass connectors on the speaker terminals, and replace them with good quality wire. You don't mention the upstream electronics, but these speakers much prefer clean amplification. Select your amps with care, and you will likely have great results w/o worrying about bi-wiring.