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Keep in mind that the H/K 930 was right around a grand when new in the early to mid 1970's! So...even if it needs new caps, and power transistors replaced or re-lubed, it is still a steal at 450 bucks!...especially when it has a very nice wooden case with it! BUT, it weighs a ton and I would never want to have one shipped to me UNLESS I was VERY sure it would be packed extremely well!. This one seems to be cosmetically extremely nice condition! They are NOT very hard to clean-up, just a time consuming thing to do it...and they have a kazillion fuses in and under them...which SHOULD BE at least checked to ensure they are the correct rating and "fast-blow fuses...PLUS never neglect cleaning the fuse holders while you have the fuses out for checking! It is VERY conservatively rated at 45 WPC, but it SOUNDS more like it is pushing 100 WPC compared to most stuff in its rating category...then or now...especially NOW!

So, how does that work with Del Taco? You walk into one you have never visited and they ask for your phone number and up pops your favorite order?? COOL!!🤣 So, do they wear costumes of Disneyland characters with food industry gloves on their hands?

There actually ARE workshops that teach you how to build musical instruments like guitars, which culminate in building your own guitar...dulcimer, etc...whatever you have been wanting to build for yourself. I just googled: build your own guitar workshop and lots of different ones in different places all over the country popped up!

I SEVERELY edited my post to you, please back up and check it out again...thanks! I'm also a military retiree, but I retired from the reserve side of the house at age 60...did an ungodly amount of active duty in those 36 years though! But, on the civilian workforce side of things, I learned many skills in a number of different jobs.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of work have you done and what kinds of hobbies do you have? I'm asking this for a good reason. For example, I still have a retirement home to build...so that in itself will keep me busy for about a year after I move (early next spring!) to the location I will do it at. But I have to keep busy afterwards, and since I am married, and she will very likely outlive me for at least two decades due to our age differences, I want to get a business started up for her to run and have a decent income after I am gone...since she will only have survivor benefits left from my current income, which is WAY far less than even half of what I am bringing in now. BUT, after that? I dunno what will keep me busy and allow for new friendships...other than some of my hobbies, which also tend to be kinda costly. But, I have been considering passing along to others who could use them, some of the skills I have learned in my life. Being a vet myself, I tend to lean towards that avenue for teaching skills to vets who could use them. PLUS, I would probably add new friends into that mix from those who are learning the skills. It COULD BE a win-win situation for everyone involved! The added benefit is that it COULD all (or at least MOSTLY) be funded by a grant or two! An ambitious vet could easily make a decent living from learning my wood-working skills...without even needing to depend on getting hired by someone else to do it....except maybe as being a sub-contractor to someone else. I have other skills, also...did lots of different things during my life...LOL! It would actually make me very proud to have taught some skills to a few and then they work together to earn a living using those skills in a joint operation as co-owners! This would be even MORESO, if many were PHYSICALLY-disabled, because in many parts of the wood-working processes, many PHYSICAL disabilities do not necessarily hamper anybody for at least parts of the jobs at hand. The same goes for machinists, in so many cases! I also have those skills, learned on the most worn-out equipment possible, which gave me even more skills...or should I say "tricks" of the trade? LOL! Honestly, most of my life I had to work on less than IDEAL equipment and still produce a quality product! So I learned lots of tricks and fixes for the poor-condition equipment to allow me to do things RIGHT! LOL! As they say in the infantry, "adjust-fire and continue to march!" LOL! Just a thought for ya!

What part of this did you not understand: Did you check out the link in my post?? Everything else is readily accessible online...I'm not doing a bibliography for a term paper here, ya'know? 😉 NOW, I'm done!

You keep referring to "BMI"...why? I was referring to DENSER body mass...through replacing fat density with muscle density...the DENSITY of body mass is the most important thing. Muscle is DENSER than fat is. Sound travels through denser things better...and faster. For example, sound travels much faster through water than it does air...so fast that you cannot easily discern where it is COMING FROM with your "stereo" ears, because they are attuned to location of a sound source in an environment of air, not water. Any diver can tell you this. That is why whenever a diver is underwater and hears something from a source not within his peripheral range vision, he has to look around to find the source. If he was on land, he could easily discern the general direction to the sound source, and only need to look in that direction. Denser is better for sound transmission. The only way the term: "Body mass index" is valid is if it uses the air or water displacement technique. But that ALSO decreases its validity for transmission of sound, because it still CANNOT determine the bone density ratio to the muscle density ratio, to the fat density ratio, can it? BMI is MOSTLY used for determining if somebody NEEDS to get rid of fat...and for medical applications requiring different medicines in different amounts based upon BM! results....such as weighing your dog to determine, along with the dog's age, the amount of worming meds to use....`and has little to nothing to do with transmission of sound through the body. Because a "determined" BMI for an individual is SO VARIABLE, it really doesn't apply at all for sound transmission! So, please leave "BMI" out of this! Trust me, I did over 36 years in the army and totally understand that BMI is a PERCEIVED ratio, not a gain or loss thing...and that AGE figures into that index....and that it had to be done multiple times in a row to work off of an AVERAGE to begin withl Apparently you DO NOT! So, just go and argue someplace else, because I am done!

Grocery stores...YEP! Women looking for single men check out two things in the grocery store: The ring finger, AND whether the guy's grocery cart is FILLED with microwaveable and/or prepared foods or quick to cook foods. Whereas, guys in grocery stores look for two things: Is she hot??...and... Is her cart filled with stuff to really cook real meals! My kid brother told me once that a laundry-mat is a good place to pick-up on a gal...I replied: "Hey dummy, WAKE UP! If you are at a laundry-mat, then they already KNOW that you don't have a washer and dryer, idiot! Women at laundry-mats are looking for a guy with a washer and dryer, not somebody who has to go to the laundry-mat! That way they can visit you and have some FUN while doing HER OWN clothes at your place! Who the hello RAISED you to be so incoherent of REALITY??" 🤣

See for yourself...do the isolating headphones test I mentioned: "...Try this: Take a good pair of ISOLATING headphones and plug them into your amp, with the speakers OFF. Then sit and listen for a bit WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED, and upon YOUR HAND SIGNAL, have someone else hit the "speakers on switch"...do you NOW 'hear" more bass? It is not coming THROUGH your ears, it is your BODY MASS picking it up!"

Did you check out the link in my post?? Everything else is readily accessible online...I'm not doing a bibliography for a term paper here, ya'know? 😉 Here is a thought...Try this: Take a good pair of ISOLATING headphones and plug them into your amp, with the speakers OFF. Then sit and listen for a bit WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED, and upon YOUR HAND SIGNAL, have someone else hit the "speakers on switch"...do you NOW 'hear" more bass? It is not coming THROUGH your ears, it is your BODY mass picking it up! Why do you think that when you go for a hearing test, they put you into a "sound-proof" cubicle, and give you head-phones to test your ears, ONLY? BUT, they are ONLY testing your EARS with a frequency range from around 125 hz to 8 khz! Why do you think they DON'T even test lower frequencies than 125 hz? The answer is SIMPLE: It is because your hearing threshold with ONLY your ears involved begins to fall off around 250 hz, and EXTREMELY rapidly just above 125 hz! So, how do you "hear" a flat frequency spectrum BELOW 125 hz? Body mass! They have isolated your body mass from picking up anything by testing you in a sound-proof booth with headphones, ONLY...because they are just testing your EARS for hearing loss! Again, "we live in the mid-range"! Sicntista have determined thjat humans can generally "hear" from 4 hz to arouind 18 khz, but that is WITHOUT the body mass being isolated from the equation! Scientists have ALSO determined that for almost ALL humans, the lower the frequency is below what ONLY our ears pick-up, the more it tends to cause depression in us the more the decibels go up, whereas the higher the frequency is, the more it excites us!..as the decibels go up! They have ALSO determined that females tend to "lean towards" enjoyment of lower frequencies while males tend to lean more towards higher frequencies, and that is often MOSTLY attributed to the PELVIS bone differences in density, with the average female having much more than the average male does! Guys play air guitar (highs), while gals want to dance (lows)...ya'know?

Sometimes it takes much longer for bodies to completely adjust from a more-or-less ALWAYS HOT climate like in a tropical or middle-eastern environment, when moving to, or returning to a temperate climate. Trust, me...I KNOW! When I returned from Kuwait after being there for over two-and-a-half years, it was summertime here in Arkansas. The humidity was HIGH here, and compared to WHERE I WAS in Kuwait (away from the much higher humidity nearby the Persian Gulf!), the humidity had been much lower. So, the temperatures in the 90's and into the 100's in Arkansas was considered HOT by everybody around me, but myself! Going from between 120 and 140 degrees (for all but about 2-3 months a year!)...to 90 to 100 degrees in Arkansas made me feel like I was freezing!...and that was in 2007! Well, many times in the summer here, I STILL feel like I am cold!...even though the air temps are relatively high! It is only when I am IN THE SUN that it stops...I guess because the direct radiation of the sun heats up my body MORE than the air temps do! I have the same problem to a much lesser extent when I return from Bo0hol in the lower Visayas in the Philippines after an extended stay, though! That issue is reduced a good bit if I spend most of my Bohol time very near to, or on, the beaches due to the sea breezes making it more comfortable for me! But just going inland about 1.5 km makes me feel much worse temperature/humidity-wise...probably to the reduction in fealt ground breezes due to buildings and trees blocking them so much.

So, you are an old fart and you decide to “lose some weight.” My BEST ADVICE is to NOT to JUST “lose some weight”, but to replace your reduction of fat mass with an increase in muscle mass…at least as much as possible! Here is why: Your body mass is more responsible for picking up frequencies BELOW 125 hz than your outer ears are. And the LOWER the frequency IS below 125 hz, the MORE your body mass comes into play and the less the outer ear plays a role in your “hearing”! Denser body mass makes for better pick-up of the low frequencies! Have you ever taken a pair of headphones and plugged them into a mic jack and used them like a microphone?? Well, that is BASICALLY how your ears work! Just think about it, your ears resemble horn lenses, or cones on a driver…and they “gather up” the sound around you, then transfer it to your tympanic membrane which is like the diaphragm on the driver. Then our middle ears transfer the vibrations from that “diaphragm” through a system of boney structures called the hammer, anvil, and stirrup to the cochlea, which is a fluid-filled snail-drum apparatus filled with little hair-like structures, that transfers the information to out hearing nerves which send it in “electrical IMPULSES” as information for our brains to sort out. So, basically our ears act just like using a pair of headphones as a microphone! Now, looking at your own ears, imagine how effective they would be when used as a horn lens on a driver. Now think about THIS…at what frequency range would they BEST work at for a horn lens?? You gotta admit that it would be the mid-range frequencies MUCH MORESO than the bottom end frequencies, RIGHT?? PWK used to say “we live in the mid-range”.…this is exactly why he said that! SO, just HOW do we “perceive” our hearing of the low frequencies, if our “horn lenses” are not large enough to pick them up EFFICIENTLY? The answer is very simple: Through our BODY MASS! IOW, the lower the frequency is below 125 hz, then the less our OUTER EARS are “hearing” it, and the MORE our body mass is picking it up! Our body mass transfers low frequency sounds through it to a point where those three boney structures in our ears can transfer that vibration to our cochlea…BUT there comes a point where the nerves in our bodies ALSO join into sending this info to our brains for the lowest frequencies! This is WHY totally-deaf people can dance!! Their body mass picks up the lowest frequencies and they FEEL it more than they can “hear” it, OBVIOUSLY! But their brains register the “BEAT” of the music, therefore they CAN DANCE! So, all of this being said, what the HELLo does it have to do with “old farts losing weight?” Please check out the link below: RE: https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/paperchase-aging/pdf/MEHEfwyvK9FZgwJra.pdf Now, here is what I was getting at! Since body mass plays such a large part in older people who have already had hearing loss at BOTH ends of the frequency spectrum, then actually just “losing weight” will NOT help them with their low-frequency “hearing”! BUT, we all know that reducing our fat mass is better for our HEALTH, right? We also all know that muscle mass is denser than fat mass, right? AND, we all SHOULD KNOW that replacing body fat mass with muscle mass is the MOST EFFECTIVE way to do things to better our health, RIGHT? So, Here is the deal: if you are dieting, to reduce intake and fat mass, you NEED TO EXERCISE to replace the fat-related body mass with muscle-related body mass. Doing this will NOT show up on the scales when you weigh yourself for some time, but eventually it will! And because muscle mass is DENSER than fat mass is, you will “lean-up” more, even though your "weight" will NOT NECESSARILY become that much less! PLUS, you will end up with a body mass that is DENSER, but SMALLER! And since DENSER body mass transfers sound energy better….your lower frequency hearing will actually IMPROVE somewhat! Think about it! Get smaller, and STILL "hear" the bass better!

I left Klipsch in October 1983. Gary Wheelington (look at the labels) worked in final assembly when I started at Klipsch in 1976. Gary left Klipsch at least a year or so before I left. He had been a Dealer Rep for a few years before he left Klipsch. He had accepted a job with Bell telephone of Texas. He was weekly commuting from Hope, AR to Texas for his job. Returning to Hope one weekend night, he fell asleep at the wheel, and his Mercedes ran up under the rear of a semi-rig and he tragically lost his life. It was a total shock to all of us who knew him! RIP, Gary...my old friend! In the below pic, 2nd from the left is myself, and third from the left is Gary...we took this pic right before a Willie Nelson/Leon Russell concert in Shreveport, LA. We had been "prepping" for the concert, obviously!

Just relax a bit....PWK was pretty quick to begin "sizing-up" people he didn't yet know in conversations with them. One of the things he dearly loved to do was throw out a quip or pun to see the reaction...but even moreso, to see if they even CAUGHT it! At that point he knew how to carry on a conversations with them. He would throw something out, then pause and look at the person and wait for a reaction...and if there was NO reaction he would still wait...HOPING for a reaction! I went thru that routine with him myself...the first conversation we had...and it didn't end with that conversation, either...he was a conversationally "playful" sort of character...very witty with relatively dry humor. All he wanted was a reaction of some sort...I normally just gave him that "Yes, I actually GOT THAT!" look, and he immediately KNEW...and would continue on with the conversation. That is one trait that Roy either picked-up from PWK ...OR, already had...which is probably exactly WHY they worked so well together for so many years, IMHO! It is a kind of "intellectual respect" thing, ya'know? During one of our conversations, PWK just stopped in midstream, looked into my eyes, and said "You are able to think and conceptualize in three-dimensions!" Then he just continued on with the conversation as though he had said nothing. I'll never forget that! He WAS paying me a SERIOUS compliment, though!...and as I left after our conversation, I thanked him for telling me that he realized that about me...he just smiled really big! Why did I consider that a SERIOUS compliment?? Think about it...how could somebody conceptualize something like the Klipschorn bass bin WITHOUT the ability to do it three-dimensionally?? He was actually able to perceive that ability in others, too! Go figure!😉

Have you ever considered that MAYBE PWK was doing his "audio pun" thing when he told the interviewer that about the pronunciation of his name??...CLIPS, as in an amp that clips when pushed to hard?? He had a habit of interjecting puns into conversations with those unwary of his habit, in case you wondered. I had many conversations with him during the 7+ years while I worked there, and he never once winced over how his name was pronounced when I pronounced it the German way...like EVERYBODY else in the plant pronounced it. He was kinda "PUNNY", that way! By the way, he was the one who came up with the term "Klipschirt" for the most popular of his t-shirts for employees.

When the speakers got to the sanding room, one of the first things the sanders did was to putty-up the rear edges of the box panels. If the speakers were mitered boxes, then they often ended up filling the builder's stamps in, because they were gonna get those rear edges painted black after they left the sanding room. So they puttied them up and sanded them smooth. If the paint layer is thin enough, you may be able to barely see the builder's initials...it depends! For the raw birch speakers, they also puttied up the rear edges of the panels, but it is much easier to find the initials, even if they were filled up with putty, because the rear edges were not shot with black paint...unless the speaker was shipping black. The last thing the sanders did before sending to the finishing department was to stamp in their own code...that is why their stamped-in code is more prominent than that of the builder. Pretty simple!

"JC" is Judy Clayton, she sanded them after they were built. Eventually she ended up in final assembly and then testing.

Now, THAT was a very quick drive-by! Maybe he will come back with pics??

Actually, most of the speakers bought were Japanese-made, but a large volume of AR and JBL speakers were also bought...the funny thing is that they never had the Heresy or LaScala speakers in stock long enough to even have any out in the demo rooms!! They moved pretty quickly...so quickly that by the time a shipment arrived, most if not all had already been purchased, and there were seldom any available in stock to put them in a demo room! Therefore I never got a chance to hear them while overseas because nobody I knew had them! The Bose 901's were popular along with the 501's, too! I had purchased JBL 4311 monitors, which I sold one week before I returned stateside because I had bought FOUR JBL L-36 speakers which had been drop-shipped to my father's house a month or so before I returned. Less than a month after I returned stateside and left the Army, I was working at Klipsch and just over six months or so after that (when I got my FIRSTY quarterly bonus check!) I sold the JBL's and replaced them with Heresys which I had built at the plant. Even though I lived less than 30 miles from the Klipsch factory, I had never heard any of the speakers until I started working there!! Go figure! The rest of what I bought in Europe I shipped home: H/K 900+ quad receiver, Teac A2340-R reel deck, DBX II model 124 quad noise reduction unit, Technics SL-1300 turntable, Technics RS-676-AUS cassette deck, 2 each Soundcraftsman 2012A equalizers, etc...still have all of that except that I sold one of the equalizers years ago to a buddy! I paid right at, or below, 50% of MSRP on everything I got, because I caught EVERY item either on sale or on inventory close-out sales. My goal was to listen and observe for a year or so...I had a short list of what I w3as interested in...so, I paid attention to what was going on around me...and what had to be returned for constant repairs, taking into consideration WHO the user was....did they treat the equipment delicately or were they rough with it....then I crossed-off the list the items that were constantly in for repairs when handled lovingly, for sure! And what I finally purchased piece by piece was what was great equipment and would have a long life...waited for a sale to be on the item, and grabbed it up! Pretty simple! Soldiers stuck with living in the barracks in open bays had to go over to the craft-shop and build a large cabinet for their stuff….and keep it locked-up when outside of the building....BUT those of us living off-post in apartments (as I was doing when I bought my stuff!) just had to secure their apartment to prevent unwanted hands on the stuff! My unit was seldom actually at our duty station because we tended to be in different NATO countries working with their paratroopers on joint exercises most of the time...gone for about a month, back for a few days, then gone again! England/Scotland, Norway, Sardinia, Germany, Belgium, Holland, Turkey, etc...

We all just kept our eyes on all the places which used to be farm-steads out in the countryside...and had horse corrals at one time...because them smart-alleck "collitch" kids would find them and plant seeds and we would be there to harvest "our share" of the tops when they got gooey like bubble gum in yer pocket on a hot summer day...too easy! Then we would "borrow" Dad's corncob pipe and have fun! We just called doing that the "local redneck-invoked wacky-tobacky tax"!!

Hey, in 1971, those first two did not even exist yet in my high school when I graduated! You need to take a time-out and re-figure this method to get our answers to the security questions for our bank accounts and such! You are leaving way too many of the forum members out of contention...do you realize how many of us are drawing Social Security retirement checks nowadays?? Maybe replace "stoner" with outdoorsman as into hunting and fishing and camping...and "nerd" can be replaced with studious and/or productive.

I wouldn't have used any kind of moistened rag on the cones, myself....just a SOFT-bristled paint brush would have done the trick for paper-coned woofers, and it would have been much quicker for cleaning any crud build-up from the corrugated paper surround of that woofer-cone, too! You were lucky, I have seen LaScala woofer cone faces covered in deep crud over the years...it depends on exactly WHAT gets a chance to crawl up into the bass bin back there, and how often it happens!

If it is who I think it is....or is that Scallywagger?? These forum monikers CAN BE confusing, ya'know?

Common sense would dictate using MUCH LESS air-pressure when cleaning off the face of the woofer cones....or it SHOULD, anyhow! LOL! Soft paint brush and compressed air always worked for me! As for ensuring the glue seals don't leak around the doghouse...even silicon caulk would work...

I would pull the woofers out, then use compressed air thru the compression slot on the woofer motor-board to blow out any cobwebs and dust bunnies...mouse poop...whatever...that has accumulated over the years...you may WANT to blow off the crap that has built up on the front of the woofer cones, too! HINT, HINT!