Mallette Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 It's time for the rematch between the contender Frazier Elevens and the unbeaten, untied Mighty Klipschorn. This time I have licked the hum that prevented using the the parallel output from my Super PAS4i preamp such that both systems were driven from the same source. This time, both will be driven by the same source, same preamp, and two ST-70 tube amps, both of which I believe are stock. Further, I am going to make it first come, first serve at what is played so everyone can bring thier own source material they are familiar with. Just keep it reasonably short during the comparison so everyone can get their time in. After that, it will be open season on anything you want to play on either system or equipment you want to hook up and share. The FM transmitter is working nicely so we'll have music all over the house as well as through the new (since last time) Frazer Patios at poolside. Those staying the night can proceed at will to get drunk and drool, though please avoid the equipment. The Galveston Bay oysters are SUPERB this year in spite of damage to the beds by Ike, and should still be good. I'll have a couple of gallons on ice. I'm hoping to get this fixed early enough so that those who will need to stay the night(s) can plan and reserve early. Canyonman, Oldtimer, PM, that means you guys. I'll have three bedrooms available and other space if needed. I've emailed Todd (SoundTowne) to find a date around the first of April that he can come down along with his ST-70. That will determine the "when." Dave PS - Didn't even get the post up before Todd responded: Dave, Will do. I have a home show sometime around that date and also a product show in Dallas, so let me check. My memory is as long as my _____ is so you might want to drop me another email in a week or so. Good to hear from you. Don’t know if I told you, but I have located a set of KHorns and Belle an old guy has here. Going to check them out soon. Thanks, Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Dave, was thinking about you just the other day. Count me in! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 You had me at oysters. Hope I can make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean5340 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I just realized you are in Seabrook. I lived in League City from '96-'99. Wish we could have met. Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmans Robin Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 What are Frazier Elevens like? I never heard of them before. Are they big old honkers? I mean horns [] [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 What are Frazier Elevens like? I never heard of them before. Are they big old honkers? I mean horns See the original "Battle of the Titans" thread from about 4 months back for a complete description. In short, no horns, but the Elevens are Jack Fraziers reply to the Klipschorn. Jack and Paul were the friendliest of rivals and PWK told me to my face that Jack Frazier was the only other designer he had full respect for. Placed in a corner, they are 1 db more efficient and extend one octave lower. There were only about a 100 pairs made and this pair is one of the last from 1983. They weigh in at 275 lbs. each and are the size of a small refrigerator. This is going to be a LOT of fun. Dave PS - Sean: We just moved from the DFW mid cities (Flower Mound) 3.5 years ago so you'd have missed us anyway. You're certainly welcome to visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmans Robin Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Thank you for the info. I found the old thread utilizing my well-honed detective skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmans Robin Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Mallette, After reading your other thread it does surprise me that no one including you really liked the Fraziers all that much. Maybe that el cheapo EQ hurt things enough or maybe it was the rooms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Yezzir. I blew it scientifically. Of course, I can't do much about the rooms, but I'll leave it open to the listeners to move the Elevens as they see fit (and, considering the weight, as their physique allows) and since the amps will be the same and a single preamp will be driving both of them the results should be pretty reasonably objective. That's why the rematch and a complete change of approach. In my case, I now prefer the Elevens for some things and have some theories as to why...though I don't want to taint the process at this point. I'd say the mighty 'horns still have the advantage, especially since most of the attendees will be the "home" crowd, but sometimes the challenger surprises even on the oppositions home court. In any event, it will be a lot of fun and the Kuiverin' Klipsch Klan is always diverse and greater than the sum of it's parts. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 .... and the Kuiverin' Klipsch Klan is always diverse and greater than the sum of it's parts. That's funny!!!! Must be a relation to the "Heritage Hoedown Homeboys"[<)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody_Mack Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi Dave, I am now working in Katy and staying in Brookshire during the week, so have been out of touch with the Forum and listening in general. No room for Heritage in the RV [] Count me in for the rematch! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi Dave, I am now working in Katy and staying in Brookshire during the week, so have been out of touch with the Forum and listening in general. No room for Heritage in the RV Count me in for the rematch! Rick I've a pair of spare Monte Carlos I'd be happy to place on loan. They're about 10X12X18 and will run off a few watts just fine. AAMOF, I've a spare Super T amp you could run them with. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 19, 2009 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2009 Dave, I will try and be there if the offer is still open. As per usual, in my line of work the more notice the better. I look forward to hearing that Organ R2R tape on that set up and to talking to you more about LP to HD transfer associated with your development of a music server. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Travis, you have a bed. I need some help with holdback tension on my Sony TC-765. [:$] I've rattled Todd (SoundTowne) about the date and hope to have something shortly. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 20, 2009 Moderators Share Posted January 20, 2009 I can easily bring a deck if your's is not ready to go by then. We can coordinate more as the time approaches. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 A splendid idea. I have a DBX NX-40 as well as 4BX if you have any encoded tapes. I have a Teac 2300X with the arm broken from the flywheel. This was soldered or adhered by some unknown means and I've never figured a good way to fix it short of drilling the capstan...which would require a machine shop to peform accurately and to thread. The TC-765 is in excellent condition except the holdback tension, which is electronically controlled, is maladjusted and I've not been able to figure out how to fix it. Regards,Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Todd (SoundTowne) says his mom is experiencing health issues and he really cannot commit at this time, but hopes to make it. That being the case, I am arbitrarily setting the date as Saturday, 28 March. Please let me know ASAP if you have a conflict and I'll try to change. I really don't have anything that far out so it will not be a problem, but I'd like to get it set in stone. I MAY be able to borrow Todd's ST-70 as my brother is coming down in a couple of weeks from there. However, does anyone have anything they could bring that would be comparable? I'd really like to match the amps for the Elevens and 'horns as closely as possible. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 29, 2009 Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2009 However, does anyone have anything they could bring that would be comparable? I'd really like to match the amps for the Elevens and 'horns as closely as possible. I can bring VRD's Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Sold to Travis! Run them in UL mode and it should be a good match. Be fun to switch to Triode for A/B of amp modes... Never done that before. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eq_shadimar Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 OOOO I wanna come! I will pencil in that date myself. If there is anyone from the DFW area that wants to carpool lets talk. Laters, Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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