roaddog359 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Ok, I tried some some searching on here but I need more info on the the pros and cons of these 2 players, and what the 95 does better than the 93 ect. Also who has the best prices on these units. So help me out any of you Oppo fans and owners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 From my understanding unless you do a lot of 2 channel listening on your theater and need the top of the line DAC's from the 95, then go with the 93. And the best place to buy would be amazon. They cannot be had for any less than MSRP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmassey Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 There are so few used, that when they do come up, the price usually isn't much lower than retail. If you plan on using the analog outs or as Scrappy said, listening to 2 channel music, I would go with the BDP-95. Your UMC-1's 7.1 analog stage would work extremely well with the BDP-95 because it's basically a straight through path where no extra processing is done except for volume and you have one of the best DACs in the world in the Oppo, the sound quality would be top notch. The only thing to be aware of though is because the 7.1 analog stage on your UMC-1 is so pure, there is no extra processing being done, meaning you will lose all your room correction settings. This could be a good or bad thing depending on how your speakers interact with your room. You can set crossover points in the Oppo, but that is it. The best thing you could do is get the 95 and acoustically treat your room so there is less/no need for the room correction settings you'd miss out on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 If you want an Oppo, buy an Oppo. But if you are connecting the player using HDMI, all you really need is a transport to give the bits to the AVR and just about any BR player should look and sound the same. Using analog for audio has downsides (bass management may not be as good as in the AVR as far as crossover frequency selection and delays, the 10 to 15 dB gain issue with the LFE channel, bypassing room correction EQ in the AVR).I use a$150 Sony and get SACD playback through HDMI as a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmassey Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 You also have to consider if you are going to upgrade to the XMC-1 or not. Having the BDP-95 and XMC-1 would likely be overkill as you can only use one set of DACs. You might want to wait to see how good the XMC-1 is before you take the plunge on either Oppo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaddog359 Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 i am not using the umc-1 anymore I am running a Denon 4311ci. So I am not sure if or when I would switch to the xmc-1. The umc-1 has been to buggy for me. They want me to send it in to look at it but I dont think anything is wrong with it, I just think they have some hdmi bugs and issues with at least directv boxes that they never completely worked out. I will send it in still, so they can look at it but I dont think they will find any issues. Anyway the 4311ci has been working perfect so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted August 9, 2012 Moderators Share Posted August 9, 2012 I just think they have some hdmi bugs and issues with at least directv boxes that they never completely worked out. I bet you are right. I don't have the issues others are having but I don't have any cable, dish, direct tv etc boxes hooked up either. Just a PS3 and rabbit ears. All works well with that setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhurd Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I read somewhere that denonlink is really great for improving sound as well since it stops judder. I can't really explain it any better than that =^P But after I read that I've been looking at Denon bluray players instead of Oppo since I also have a denon AVR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilbeck Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I absolutely LOVE my Denon DBP-2012udci player. I looked at the Oppo but got such a great deal on the Denon that I couldn't refuse. Haven't looked back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis-g Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Get the 95 and never have to wish you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I read somewhere that denonlink is really great for improving sound as well since it stops judder. I can't really explain it any better than that =^P But after I read that I've been looking at Denon bluray players instead of Oppo since I also have a denon AVR. The Denon Link should work with your 4311 avr to reduce jitter in the signal from the BDP to the avr . This may be a better match than the Oppo for some people, Pioneer has something like the Denon Link that works with the elite avr's. Matching component from the same company can be beneficial. For the opening post, buy the 95 if that is what you want and don't look back! Buy what you like and like what you buy[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhurd Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 ^^^I knew when I typed judder it didn't sound right...=^P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaddog359 Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 Get the 95 and never have to wish you did. I dont want to just get it to get it if there would be no benefit to adding it to the denon 4311. The 95 is double the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The main difference is in the DAC. Professional studios use 24 bit. See chart below: Either will work for you! Comparison Chart: OPPO 3D Blu-ray Disc Player Comparison BDP-95 BDP-93 Analog Audio Hardware: Stereo Digital-to-Analog Converter (DAC): ESS SABRE32 Reference ES9018(32-bit) N/A 7.1ch DAC: ESS SABRE32 Reference ES9018(32-bit) Cirrus Logic CS4382A(24-bit) Analog Audio Connectivity: Dedicated Stereo Output: XLR + RCA N/A Configurable 7.1ch Output: RCA RCA Analog Audio Specifications: Frequency Response: Stereo/7.1ch:20Hz - 20kHz (±0.2dB) 20Hz - 96kHz (±1.0dB) 7.1ch:20Hz - 20kHz (±0.3dB) 20Hz - 96kHz (±2.0dB) Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted, with auto-mute): >125dB >110dB Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-weighted, without auto-mute): >115dB N/A THD+N (1kHz 96/24 at 0dB, 20kHz LPF): <0.0003% <0.002% Dynamic Range (1kHz 96/24 at -60dB): >114dB >110dB Channel Separation (10kHz 96/24 at 0dB): >110dB >92dB Power Supply Hardware: Digital Power Supply: Switching Power Supply Switching Power Supply Analog Power Supply: Linear + Toroidal Transformer Regular Switched Capacitor Video Features: Video Processing Technology: 2nd Generation Qdeo™ by Marvell 2nd Generation Qdeo™ by Marvell Full HD 1080p Output: 1080p 24Hz Output from Blu-ray: Source Direct Mode: Multiple Zoom Modes: Vertical Stretch Mode: Component Output: Composite Output: PAL and NTSC Output: PAL/NTSC Conversion: Analog Features: Dolby TrueHD: DTS-HD Master Audio: Digital Optical and Coaxial Outputs: SACD DSD Output over HDMI: SACD PCM Output over HDMI: SACD DSD-to-Analog Direct: SACD DSD-PCM-Analog Conversion: Playback Features: Blu-ray Disc: BonusView (Profile 1.1): BD-Live (Profile 2.0): Blu-ray 3D (Profile 5.0): DVD Up-Conversion: DVD-Audio: SACD: DLNA Support: Additional Media Formats: CD, HDCD, AVCHD, MKV, MP4, FLAC, WAV, DivX, DivX Plus HD, Kodak Picture CD, and other audio/video/picture files CD, HDCD, AVCHD, MKV, MP4, FLAC, WAV, DivX, DivX Plus HD, Kodak Picture CD, and other audio/video/picture files Streaming Services: Netflix: VUDU: Pandora: YouTube Leanback: Picasa: Film Fresh: Convenience Features: Dual HDMI v1.4a with 3D & Deep Color: Dual USB Ports: eSATA Port: Back-lit Remote Control: USB Wireless Adapter (802.11 b/g/n): Universal Power Supply (110V/60Hz, 220V/50Hz): RS-232C Control Port: External IR Input: HDMI CEC: Other Features: Front Panel: Heavy gauge sculptured aluminum Heavy gauge brushed aluminum Rack Mountable (Kit sold separately): OPPO Recommendations: For use with high-end audio systems via analog audio connections: For use with all audio systems via HDMI, analog and/or digital optical/coaxial connections: Price: $999.00 $499.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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