bracurrie Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I am having one of my two amps repaired so I dug out my Forte IIs. Since I was rewiring anyway I decided to dig out my Scott 222c that I had refurbished last year. While the sound is quite good, surprising good actually , I am not getting the volume I like with out turning the amp up to 3/4 on the knob. This begs the question: Which speakers would be the best match for this tube amp? Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khorndog Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I run a 299b through Khorns... nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 That should be pretty loud... you might want to check the volume on your source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivernuggets Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Forte IIs have a 99db sensitivity. I agree with muel. What are you using as a source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatgrass Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 You have me wondering now. I haven't use my 222C in probably nine months now. Will have to swap it out to see. But, in regards to you question, Belle, Heresy, RB75. Can get each of them to a very good level, and I think nothing over 12 o'clock. Source mainly computer/DAC and turntable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracurrie Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 check the volume on your sourceUsing my Audio Research SP6 as a front end and using the record outs as inputs to the 222. The phono preamp in the SP6 pushes good gain, but the AUX 1 and 2 have devices connected to them that are for some reason weaker. Enjoying it all the same. Thanks. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBryan Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I also have a 222c and it works well with most mid to high efficiency speaks ( 92dB+). The amp should push the Forte around just fine so you need to check the settings, tubes, connections and wires before you proceed. I've never hooked the Scott up to Khorns but it sounds good on Epic C4's, C3's and Cornwalls, as well as single driver horns like the Cain & Cain Abby's and the Altec 604's. At the moment, the amp is running with Tannoy Windsors with Monitor Gold drivers and I'm quite happy with the combo. The 222c is a great amp - quiet with lots of bottom end for 18 watts and matches well with almost anything you hook 'em up to. Have fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBryan Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 check the volume on your sourceUsing my Audio Research SP6 as a front end and using the record outs as inputs to the 222. The phono preamp in the SP6 pushes good gain, but the AUX 1 and 2 have devices connected to them that are for some reason weaker. Enjoying it all the same. Thanks. Brad If I understand your set up, I'd suggest hooking up the SP6 'TAPE OUT' through the Scott's 'TAPE IN' input so you're not dealing with 2 volume controls and an impedance mismatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracurrie Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Thanks for the suggestions. I was using the tape outs on the SP6. Unless I am using phono I do not even have to turn it on. I took your suggestion and moved from the EXTRA to the PLAYBACK labeled inputs and doesn't really sound different. I wish the RCA jacks were not so tight together on the Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Don't forget to check the simple things like swapping out your RCA interconnects. I was beating my head over a problem with anemic sound coming from both channels and finally traced it down to the lousy Monster cable interconnects. Those RCA connections are pretty close on the Scott... some cables you just can't use. edit: Oh, and remove the SP6 preamp out of the equation to test your source directly to the 222c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracurrie Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Muel, Thanks for the thoughts. Did some RCA cable swaps and eliminated that as a problem, fortunately I have two to play with that fit the Scott. Tried the Scott direct to the CD player with same results. But that didn't surprise me any as the SP6 isn't doing anything on line level sources it switches. But the phono preamp on the SP6 is much better than the Scott IMO so I am going to stay with the SP6 front end. My local tech mentioned that I shouldn't be concerned with the volume knob at 12 or even 2 to get to 80db Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 when you say 3/4 do you mean 3 quarters of full travel, 3 or 4 on the face plate of the Scott or 3 or 4:00? If you mean 3 or 4 on the face plate that is entirely normal and of no concern. If either of the 2 other scernarios is true something is not right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Morbius Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I have a Scott 299C that Craig of NOSValves did his magic on and I must admit the preamp is superb - and I believe your preamp in the 222C is very similar to mine. Maybe you have some weak preamp tubes in it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracurrie Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Well I was guessing 3/4 of the travel, but maybe not that much. Its the relative level of the aux devices relative to the phone that got me post the original question. Seems that my next step is to check the tubes. BTW is there any way to replace the very hot resistor in this unit with something else that runs cooler? Thanks Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'm still not clear as to what you mean and what ways you have hooked the source up to the amp so maybe you could hook it up as I suggest for testing purposes. Here is what I suggest. Get the SP6 out of the picture just in case it has some type of passive impedance effect on the signal. connect a standard CD player without an output level control (if it has a control turn it all the way up) to the extra input then let me know how far you have to turn it up to get about 80db. It would also be helpful to know how large the room is and how far away from the speakers you listen. A properly working 222C should be darn loud at 3/4 of the volume controls travel with a CD players output and just about any klipsch speaker. In fact it wouldn't be to far from full power. They did tend to ramp the sound up later in the controls travel on later amps then the earlier versions but not that far!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 which hot resistor are we talking about? A stand up type above the chassis? It is placed up top because it gets so hot. If so it really is of no concern unless it gives up the ghost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Hey old man, how are you and yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Hey old man, how are you and yours? Same old same old around here... hope all is well with you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.