CECAA850 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Parasound, Anthem, or ATI are all good choices. Sunfires are nice too but most are getting a little older by now. I would think Emotiva and Adcom would be model specific. Some good matches, some not so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I had been focused on only having a 2-channel setup for a couple of years. I bought the PM8004 to have a good quality integrated and I added the TASCAM so that I could have HDMI hookups. My recent Forte finds as well as my pending home purchase are affording me the opportunity to go back to a HT setup. So now I plan on using the TASCAM as a preamp and want to add a 5-channel amp for the 5 Fortes. I know Fortes are sensitive but in a HT environment I just wanted to be sure to get a amp that will be sufficient for that purpose. My tv room is about 18'x24. I move in 6 days Sorry, I was off base with my idea of an Onk 818. At best that would have been a sideways move, not a notch up. Feel free to ignore me. +++ I've never liked 2-channel integrated amps/receivers when you divide the signal into 4. For me at least, it just makes the 4 speakers lifeless, and two only usually sounded better. Have you run the TASCAM in its native 5.1 mode? Going just by the specs, it should be just fine for driving those 5 speakers. But like nearly everyone says, more power is better, for more headroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finallygotmyheresies Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 Sorry, I was off base with my idea of an Onk 818. At best that would have been a sideways move, not a notch up. Feel free to ignore me. +++ I've never liked 2-channel integrated amps/receivers when you divide the signal into 4. For me at least, it just makes the 4 speakers lifeless, and two only usually sounded better. Have you run the TASCAM in its native 5.1 mode? Going just by the specs, it should be just fine for driving those 5 speakers. But like nearly everyone says, more power is better, for more headroom. No worries, nobody is off-base here at all. I have only used the Tascam as a preamp but I have no desire to use it to drive any of my speakers. I picked it up because it has 7.2 pre outs as well as dual hdmi out. I'm set on using a external amp or amps for the Fortes. I'm excited to watch some concerts with all 5 speakers set to full and no restriction on the volume knob. I haven't been able to do that since 2008 with my last, pre-klipsch, HT setup which was a acoustimass 15. To say I'm excited would be an understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Careful with used amps and companies that have been bought out or have gone away. Your $1K could turn into $1.5K or more after a repair. Spend a little more and get a warranty, not just a roll of the dice. Cant beat this for $1600 new and 5 years warranty. Specs are very, very good as well. Look at the power supplies, this thing will definitely stretch those Forte's out. Outlaw 7500. Almost identical to ATI, which its built by in the USA. This is the balanced 5 channel version which is $100 more 7 x 200 watts RMS @ 8 ohms FTC: 20Hz to 20kHz, < 0.05% THD; Frequency Response (at rated output) 20Hz -20kHz ± 0.1 dB Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) Less than 0.05% at rated output all frequencies; less than 0.01% at 1kHz Intermodulation Distortion (IMD) Less than 0.05% at rated output Power Bandwidth 5Hz - >100kHz +0/-3 dB 5Hz Damping Factor Greater than 400 from 10Hz - 400Hz Crosstalk Greater than -90dB from 20Hz - 20kHz Gain Voltage gain of 28dB Slew Rate 50V/Microsecond Input Impedance Nominal 50k ohms Check out the actual THD from the Sound and Vision bench test @ 1Khz. Some people will huff over a 1K reading, but still impressive. 50 watts at .001% 150 watts @ .0025 This graph shows that the 7500’s left channel, with two channels driving 8-ohm loads Edited February 25, 2015 by Max2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Good price here for this Anthem. I sold one of these on consignment for my amp repair guy last year and it sounded awesome with my Heresy II's. Very well built. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anthem-PVA-5-Amplifier-Black-/301531444677?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4634acb5c5 Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Outlaw 7200. Almost identical to ATI, which its built by in the USA. I believe ATI builds that amp for Outlaw as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Outlaw 7200. Almost identical to ATI, which its built by in the USA. I believe ATI builds that amp for Outlaw as well. And you would be correct. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Outlaw 7200. Almost identical to ATI, which its built by in the USA. I believe ATI builds that amp for Outlaw as well. You're correct. And just by looks they appear to be identical, but I have been told by an upper at ATI that there are different power outputs used by the Outlaw and ATI, but that could very well be mumbo jumbo. I know sound and Vision put the Outlaw 7500 up against the $10K Anthem P5 and from the review it paired the action very, very well. SNR, THD, slew rate are all top notch with the ATI and Outlaw. Im really wanting to try a 7500 out, but old two channel Mac's are tugging at me as well as a SET setup. I have the hots on for no where right now and seem to be in all directions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You're correct. And just by looks they appear to be identical, but I have been told by an upper at ATI that there are different power outputs used by the Outlaw and ATI, but that could very well be mumbo jumbo. ATI wouldn't build an amp for someone that's better than what they put their own logo on IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronH Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You're correct. And just by looks they appear to be identical, but I have been told by an upper at ATI that there are different power outputs used by the Outlaw and ATI, but that could very well be mumbo jumbo. ATI wouldn't build an amp for someone that's better than what they put their own logo on IMHO. Maybe not, but just as good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronH Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's the same thing as the ATI 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) You're correct. And just by looks they appear to be identical, but I have been told by an upper at ATI that there are different power outputs used by the Outlaw and ATI, but that could very well be mumbo jumbo. ATI wouldn't build an amp for someone that's better than what they put their own logo on IMHO. You wouldn't think, but the specs between the two are spot on. Maybe sound signature is a little different. I bet neither of us, or myself for sure, could actually hear a difference between the two But wait, didn't ATI build a few models for Mark Levinson, Lexicon and a few (rumored) SS models for Cary? Edited February 25, 2015 by Max2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's the same thing as the ATI 2005 Is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You're correct. And just by looks they appear to be identical, but I have been told by an upper at ATI that there are different power outputs used by the Outlaw and ATI, but that could very well be mumbo jumbo. ATI wouldn't build an amp for someone that's better than what they put their own logo on IMHO. You wouldn't think, but the specs between the two are spot on. Maybe sound signature is a little different. I bet neither of us, or myself for sure, could actually hear a difference between the two But wait, didn't ATI build a few models for Mark Levinson, Lexicon and a few (rumored) SS models for Cary? I believe so. Dreadnaught as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) I believe the ATI's come with a 7 year warranty also. Edited February 25, 2015 by CECAA850 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You wouldn't think, but the specs between the two are spot on. So 2 speakers with the same specs sound the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronH Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You wouldn't think, but the specs between the two are spot on. So 2 speakers with the same specs sound the same? yes, if they are the same brand......as in this case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You wouldn't think, but the specs between the two are spot on. So 2 speakers with the same specs sound the same? yes, if they are the same brand......as in this case I guess you missed my point which was the just because 2 DIFFERENT things (amps, speakers etc) have the same specs on paper, doesn't mean they sound the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronH Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You wouldn't think, but the specs between the two are spot on. So 2 speakers with the same specs sound the same? yes, if they are the same brand......as in this case I guess you missed my point which was the just because 2 DIFFERENT things (amps, speakers etc) have the same specs on paper, doesn't mean they sound the same. No I understood your point, and in your example, you would be correct. In the case of the ATI vs Outlaw 7500.....they are the same amp and the point becomes moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronH Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's the same thing as the ATI 2005 Is it? You didn't post the ATI 2005.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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