dtr20 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I have a pair of Belle Klipsch speakers that sound amazing. I am running them with an old Sony TA-1144 receiver. My friend offered me first dibs on a Marantz 2250B receiver that he is picking up this weekend along with a McIntosh tube amp. I really like the bass that is able to come out of my Belles with this amp. Is it worth upgrading? Will I still be able to get the same amount of bass with the Marantz? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Tough one to answer because I have not heard the Sony but I did have a Marantz 2252B and it would thump my Heresys. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 If I were you, I'd beat your friend over the head with the Marantz, and steal the Mcintosh.....failing that, absolutely get the Marantz. You'll love it with the Belles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 By all means upgrade to the Marantz. It is an old receiver, and it may need to visit the electronics repair guy, so don't throw out the Sony yet. If you really want to make those things come to life, give us a budget figure and we will help you spend 20% more than that. Marantz has some bigger badder receivers... Here is a site full of cool data to peruse. http://www.classic-audio.com/marantz/mindex.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 Thanks for the info. He was told the marantz didn't work, so it's going to his friend first who will repair it, then we will see how much he wants for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Thanks for the info. He was told the marantz didn't work, so it's going to his friend first who will repair it, then we will see how much he wants for it. there is repairing and then there is rebuilding. Components of the vintage of the Marantz in question need to be rebuilt not repaired, it is not the same thing. A rebuild means you replace (with new and the best quality you can afford) all electrolytic capacitors as a minimum. It is also a good plan to replace the film caps as well followed by any other parts that are worth upgrading or which may need replacement (input caps coupling caps feedback caps anything signal path supply bypass caps). Spending money on a repair is just a waste at this point better to do a full rebuild and your repair will happen at the same time, repair first and you are paying twice for parts and labour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) If it isn't working, I would personally pass. This is a lower value Marantz and it's a pig in a poke as they say. Most folks won't pay to rebuild/restore anything under the 2285 and that is a stretch. When you feel like you want more out of your Belles, throw a budget out there for us, and we will seriously help you find something great. If you want big solid state sound out of a vintage receiver, it's hard to beat the Pioneer SX1250 and 1280. They don't come cheap, and a restoration can cost almost $1,000 itself. Here is one for sale that is not only restored, but they filmed the restoration process. The cost, $1,700 and they will not ship. You would have to pick it up in Lancaster, NY. Pioneer SX 1250 sx-1250 2 Channel 160Watt Receiver - Fully Serviced and restored. I'm certainly not suggesting that you buy this particular receiver. I am demonstrating that the really good ones cost a lot more because of what Moray said. It takes a great deal of expertise, a lot of time, and a lot of money. If you bought a run of the mill 1250, you can pay a guy just under $900 to restore and rebuild it for you. Of course, you will pay shipping two ways and probably wait 6 months for it. There are some folks here who use the 1250 and 1280, and occasionally they sell one. You might post a want to buy (WTB) add in the Garage Sale section here. If the person selling is trustworthy, the forum folks will tell you. Edited February 25, 2016 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 I don't have a budget, I wasn't looking to upgrade, until he said I have first dibs at this receiver. The Sony sounds awesome with the belles, just curious if I should jump on the marantz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rxonmymind Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Thanks for the info. He was told the marantz didn't work, so it's going to his friend first who will repair it, then we will see how much he wants for it.there is repairing and then there is rebuilding. Components of the vintage of the Marantz in question need to be rebuilt not repaired, it is not the same thing. A rebuild means you replace (with new and the best quality you can afford) all electrolytic capacitors as a minimum. It is also a good plan to replace the film caps as well followed by any other parts that are worth upgrading or which may need replacement (input caps coupling caps feedback caps anything signal path supply bypass caps). Spending money on a repair is just a waste at this point better to do a full rebuild and your repair will happen at the same time, repair first and you are paying twice for parts and labour. Absolutely correct. My example. I took a Marantz 2500 in for a evaluation locally and the pro told me to replace TWO caps, blow some air to clean up the inside would come to $400-$500. Absurd. I decided to instead to have the Marantz 100% refurbished meaning approximately 30-40 caps being replaced as well as films, transistor etc for $1200. Keep in mind this is about an 30-40 hr job vs the first guy maybe 30 min and there is no telling if some part will fail again. Then be charged another couple hundred? No thanks. Do it right the first time. On a smaller scale I'm having a Sony STR 7055 completely refurbished right now. Cost about $400 and it'll be good for another 20-30 years. Amortize that and it comes out to a sweet deal. But first you have to love the sound of the unit and be able to compare it to others in it's league. Apples to apples. Then if you do have it sent in for a full year down & rebuild. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Yea this receiver had already been sold last winter. I'm sticking with my Sony for now Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 If you were close, I'd let you borrow a few of mine. The all have different sound that they produce. Not just in different brands either. Most models of the same brand can be TOTL or totally not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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