jdmccall Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Purchased from Klipsch and delivered today by Fed-Ex. Boxes looked like they'd been attacked by Samurai Chef. Holes, cuts, slashes...yikes! Speakers seem to be OK other than a tiny abrasion that went through the vinyl on the lower front edge, just behind the grille of one. A black marker pretty much took care of that. It can't be seen unless you're looking for it and get within a couple feet of it. Not worth sending it back, I guess, but still annoying. Lots of listening going on! Crossover to pair of Velodyne DLS4000R's...50Hz, 80Hz...I dunno! Experimenting... They don't seem to really have a 98dB sensitivity. I'd guess closer to 90 than 100. I'd be interested to know how Klipsch derives their sensitivity figure. As for sound quality, the jury is still out but I am very encouraged so far. Very full sounding and smooth across the spectrum. No "horn colorations" as far as I can tell. Nice and clean and open! They sound very...contemporary? I don't know that they sound as good as any of the heritage speakers I've owned in the past (not that I expect them too, of course! ) but for the money, pretty impressive! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 10 hours ago, jdmccall said: They don't seem to really have a 98dB sensitivity. I'd guess closer to 90 than 100. I'd be interested to know how Klipsch derives their sensitivity figure. From my understanding, corner loaded. The horns are plenty efficient but the woofers "need" a little help to bring that overall sensitivity average up. By the way, congrats on the RF-82II's. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmccall Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 Thanks, Bill! I have my two Velodyne subs in the corners, so what I've got, sensitivity-wise, is what I will have. That's OK. though. They get plenty loud enough for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhain1969 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I've got mine set at 80Hz and seem to have a better sound/sound-stage... Anything higher and they lose a bit of mid and low-end even with a sub picking up the LFE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhain1969 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Disregard folks... Wrong set of speakers, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I remember when I got the 82 set up. Dude I was blown away after it was all set up. When its dialed in your going to get the sickness and start the long expensive journey of upgrade fever "Seriously run!!!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Forgot "Congrats dude" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 4 hours ago, Cinema_head said: I remember when I got the 82 set up. Dude I was blown away after it was all set up. When its dialed in your going to get the sickness and start the long expensive journey of upgrade fever "Seriously run!!!" So true.... so true.... started with 52s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmccall Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 6 hours ago, Cinema_head said: Forgot "Congrats dude" Thanks..."dude". Been awhile since I had any "big ol' klipsch" in da' house. Enjoying! Would I like a pair of walnut cornwalls again? Yes!! Am I worried about it? No! Am I keeping my eyes open? Yes!!! In the meantime, and however long that may be, I will be making a joyful noise (of sorts) with the RF82 II / Velodyne set-up. As the wise man once said: "It's all good". -The Dude abides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLAudio Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 http://www.libinst.com/PublicArticles/Setup of WG Speakers.pdf I have RF 62 IIs, read this, thank me later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmccall Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 Interesting, but might make for a rolled off top end, being so far off driver's axis'. I pretty much always set in the sweet spot anyway and when I don't, I'm usually not focused on sound quality. How do you like the 62's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLAudio Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, jdmccall said: Interesting, but might make for a rolled off top end, being so far off driver's axis'. I pretty much always set in the sweet spot anyway and when I don't, I'm usually not focused on sound quality. How do you like the 62's? Love them. The best sweet spot is just behind, like 6" behind my head. That extreme toe in is second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmccall Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 I'll play with them sometime and try the extreme toe-in. I just spent hours today trying to get the blend with my subs right. I don't even want to think about moving anything for awhile! BTW, you're set-up looks tight! (I mean that in a good way. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Congrats on the new speakers! I'm a firm believer in a break in period of new drivers and components, things usually start to sound better after a few days run time. As far as crossing over the mains I wouldn't do it unless you're playing at extremely high levels and worried about distortion. Full range speakers always sound better to me running full range, even with subs. As far as positioning goes its well worth the effort to experiment with all the available options. That doesn't mean you have to do it all in one day, sometimes its best to move them and listen for a day or two before moving them again. What may sound like a bad move initially may end up sounding good with different source material etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLAudio Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 9 hours ago, jdmccall said: I'll play with them sometime and try the extreme toe-in. I just spent hours today trying to get the blend with my subs right. I don't even want to think about moving anything for awhile! BTW, you're set-up looks tight! (I mean that in a good way. ) Thanks! I crossover at 80 from my AVR on my subs (2 PSA XS15-SEs) I'm not a fan of how these speakers perform bass at 60hz, but this could just be my room nodes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmccall Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 The 82's have a substantial peak in my room in the 50Hz area. I tried 50 and 80 Hz x/o's but hump was still strong, plus a weakness in the 100-125Hz bands. Moving x/o up to 100 Hz, combined with careful adjustment of subwoofer phase, really smoothed things out. Now I'm nice and tight down into the 25Hz band. Sounding real nice! I know it seems wrong to run the cross-over so high, but hey, whatever works! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, jdmccall said: The 82's have a substantial peak in my room in the 50Hz area. I tried 50 and 80 Hz x/o's but hump was still strong, plus a weakness in the 100-125Hz bands. Moving x/o up to 100 Hz, combined with careful adjustment of subwoofer phase, really smoothed things out. Now I'm nice and tight down into the 25Hz band. Sounding real nice! I know it seems wrong to run the cross-over so high, but hey, whatever works! Glad ur finding a sweet spot.... im still bouncing around about a month later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLAudio Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 4 hours ago, jdmccall said: The 82's have a substantial peak in my room in the 50Hz area. I tried 50 and 80 Hz x/o's but hump was still strong, plus a weakness in the 100-125Hz bands. Moving x/o up to 100 Hz, combined with careful adjustment of subwoofer phase, really smoothed things out. Now I'm nice and tight down into the 25Hz band. Sounding real nice! I know it seems wrong to run the cross-over so high, but hey, whatever works! I run Audyssey, and it turns down these speakers A LOT in the 50-60 range. I've heard folks using up to 100, but my subs vanish in my room at 80 just a tad bit more than they would at 100. I also use my speakers for TV and HT, and at 100hz, male voices can give you a headache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmccall Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 8:49 PM, Justus said: Glad ur finding a sweet spot.... im still bouncing around about a month later. Bouncing can be fun...or at least, Tigger seems to like it! On 11/18/2016 at 0:45 AM, ATLAudio said: I run Audyssey, and it turns down these speakers A LOT in the 50-60 range. I've heard folks using up to 100, but my subs vanish in my room at 80 just a tad bit more than they would at 100. I also use my speakers for TV and HT, and at 100hz, male voices can give you a headache My subs start dropping above 70 Hz regardless of how high above that I might set the x/o. The 100 Hz x/o does seem to knock down the RF82's 50Hz peak, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLAudio Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 52 minutes ago, jdmccall said: Bouncing can be fun...or at least, Tigger seems to like it! My subs start dropping above 70 Hz regardless of how high above that I might set the x/o. The 100 Hz x/o does seem to knock down the RF82's 50Hz peak, though. How far are they to the closest wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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