minermark Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Bob has ALWAYS got my Re-fresh/Upgrading needs handled. Currently K's, Scalas x three pair, and a pair of Bells. Iv NO reason to look/go anywhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Now wait a minute - I do a nice build! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, Deang said: Now wait a minute - I do a nice build! Im saving you for my McM(s) project later this year, and really may throw you a bigtime bone, MY EAW stacks that are factory Bi-Ampped. I think iv still got a pic of these, figure i sure as hell aint selling them, might as well freshin things up, you will be hearing from me in due time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm a builder Mark - toss me a schematic and I can do some great work - but I build for great sound - which means I really don't give a shit about your checking account. :-) Too much Bourbon! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, Deang said: I'm a builder Mark - toss me a schematic and I can do some great work - but I build for great sound - which means I really don't give a shit about your checking account. :-) Too much Bourbon! Im very much aware of your builds, i agree with the checking acct, great sound is not done on the cheap. my wife knows/agrees. I believe Justin is/has played your designs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 28 minutes ago, minermark said: ..... i agree with the checking acct, great sound is not done on the cheap. ...... --------- Actually, Good sound does not require dumping tons of money toward the hobby. Wise choices will get you much further. I always get a laugh when I hear about folks spending a fortune on some electronic parts because they are covered in beeswax (or whatever ....). It is really not required. As always, my advice is free and maybe it is worth what you pay for it Enjoy the holidays, -Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Justin is strictly ESN ALK - great for high SPL listening - but that's about it. At low to normal listening levels, the sound is recessed and not very dynamic - kind of boring actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Right Tom - because a cheap *** metalized capacitor sounds just as good as a quality film and foil - give me a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, Deang said: Right Tom - because a cheap *** metalized capacitor sounds just as good as a quality film and foil - give me a break! Dean, I certainly never said that. What I am saying is that quality components do not have to cost an arm and a leg. Is the "beeswax" critical for good sound? Now who is kidding who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleywood Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 On December 21, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Mighty Favog said: Bob doesn't have any type of contract with Klipsch. Check to see if Tuell is an authorized service center, that'll probably tell ya. I checked their website and didn't see any mention of being an authorized klipsch repair center. That's what had me baffled and I wasn't about to send my xo's to them. I kept searching and found this forum. Best decision I ever made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You get what you pay for - that is the way of the world. Yes, I believe paper in oil, and foil in wax paper dielectric film types sound better than junk Mylars or dirt cheap metalized polypropylenes. Films are "critical" to the "best" obtainable sound. I realize this position isn't popular around here - but a decade of experience tells me otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleywood Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Jim said: I spoke with Klipsch as well when I was getting ready to do my crossovers over and they said the reason they didn't push for Bob was because his crossovers weren't exact to the originals.They spoke of Bob as if you were speaking of having a few grains of sand in your shoes without wearing socks. I used Bob on my forte II's and my KG 4.2's. He was more than helpful and courteous. Another reason is it takes away business from Klipsch with people not "upgrading" or replacing their older speakers, so why push someone who may hinder some of us buying more of their product. From a business stand point, speakers last a good 20 years or so before needing new crossovers, getting them done by Bob adds another 20 years, so as a company, they may only get 1 purchase from a consumer in a 40 years time frame. I can see that corporate view as a real possibility why they don't push repairs. But geez if you make such great sounding quality speakers why wouldn't you expect your customers to try and hold on to them as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Klipsch doesn't want you to keep your speakers forever - they want you to invest in NEW loudspeakers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Whew!!! I almost backed Dean up with an actual quote from a Klipsch engineer on that subject. Came to my senses before posting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Lol! Too funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, PrestonTom said: --------- Actually, Good sound does not require dumping tons of money toward the hobby. Wise choices will get you much further. I always get a laugh when I hear about folks spending a fortune on some electronic parts because they are covered in beeswax (or whatever ....). It is really not required. As always, my advice is free and maybe it is worth what you pay for it Enjoy the holidays, -Tom "Good sound does not require dumping tons of money toward the hobby" Well iv NO regrets over the years, not one when it comes to the refinement of sounds. Iv spent some big bucks now and then, just cannot think of anything i really overpaid for. Bob's goodies re-enforce the way Klipsch was ment to be listened to, and i like it. When it comes to my big boys here, they will get the best that can be bought, and im happy to pay whatever it takes to tune them with the finest goodies available. My Rig, My Neighbors to pizz off. My hat's off to guy's like Bob & Dean, for without them, who we going to ask? some moron @ parts express? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-D Rider Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I have dealt with Bob and Dean both are great guys . Bob is always there to talk , I don`t know how he gets anything done . The first time I talked with dean about crossovers 3 hrs later My head was spinning , But I did buy a pair of his super AA`s for my bells ................ Merry christmas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted December 23, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 23, 2016 This devolved quickly, and don't have time to keep track of it. Gonna lock this down, maybe look at it next year, or let Chad deal with it. Better yet, @Chief bonehead can address it all when he has time,.it's his bally wick. I heard he has some free time next May. If the OP isn't asking a rhetorical question, and would really like an answer, shoot me a PM and I will try and get you an anewer, in general, why they are referring to that company, and not others. In the meantime, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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