TSWisla Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Hello, I am changing my entire setup. I am stronly considering Klipsch speakers. My room is 16x11 with 9' ceilings. I have found some Cornwall 1s in like new condition. Asking price is 1500, is this too high? Are they too big for my room? Which speakers would work best in my room? Should I be looking for series III instead of I or II? Thank you for your advice! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Welcome....any Cornwall would sound good, the CWlll would be priced higher because it's a newer speaker. Dave @wvu80 has a spread sheet with used heritage prices. Good luck. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 50 minutes ago, TSWisla said: I have found some Cornwall 1s in like new condition. Asking price is 1500, is this too high? Yes it's too high. Klipsch tends to filter into price points: (approximating here) Heresy - $400 Chorus I - $600 Cornwall I - $833 Cornwall II - $935 Cornwall III - $2113 La Scala - $1200 (you can find pristine LS's for $1500) Belle - $1900 Khorns w/Type AA crossovers - $2200 Here is the basis for those prices, the Heritage Prices spreadsheet. You can do your own research in more depth. Condition is the most important factor in vintage speakers and the selling price is whatever a willing Seller and a willing Buyer can agree to. Klipsch Heritage used prices ver 2019-06.xlsx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, TSWisla said: I am changing my entire setup. I am strongly considering Klipsch speakers. We have two Klipsch forum members who work together and are Klipsch dealers. They have earned the trust and respect of the members here due to really great pricing and service. I have bought from them. I suggest you send one or both a PM Message (click on the name for the PM addy) tell them what you have in mind and see what they might suggest. You will get honest and knowledgeable advice. Be sure to ask about B-stock. The prices will surprise you. I have bought Klipsch speakers from them. @MetropolisLakeOutfitters - Cory @Scrappydue - Steven 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, wvu80 said: Yes it's too high. Klipsch tends to filter into price points: (approximating here) Heresy - $400 Chorus I - $600 Cornwall I - $833 Cornwall II - $935 Cornwall III - $2113 La Scala - $1200 (you can find pristine LS's for $1500) Belle - $1900 Khorns w/Type AA crossovers - $2200 Here is the basis for those prices, the Heritage Prices spreadsheet. You can do your own research in more depth. Condition is the most important factor in vintage speakers and the selling price is whatever a willing Seller and a willing Buyer can agree to. Klipsch Heritage used prices ver 2019-06.xlsx 325.09 kB · 72 downloads nice informative spreadsheet Dave. In collecting this data, do you have a good sense of price changes geographically? I’m in the Pacific Northwest these days and I haven’t shopped for anything yet. Just curious how they compare to the rest of the country. In Los Angeles, i never found the deals that many hear claim to have scored. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, BigStewMan said: do you have a good sense of price changes geographically? I’m in the Pacific Northwest Yes. A lot of local guys give me feedback and I think there are a couple of areas where deals are far and few between. Texas and California seem to be higher, Retail plus 20%, and your area near the state of Washington also has higher prices compared to the rest of the country. Chicagoland has deals and central Florida has a good supply of Klipsch at decent prices. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSWisla Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Wow. Thank you for all of the advice so far. I sincerely appreciate it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Welcome Can I ask why your looking at Klipsch? Have you heard cornwalls? Most of the speakers I have ever bought I didn't listen to first (so no judgment). Rooms never sound the same from one to the other. Not to mention gear and other factors. I was just wondering what got you interested in cornwalls. If you look at my screen name you can see I'm a fan. And cornwalls are really great speakers to get your feet wet into klipsch/heritage. Wvu80 is right $1500 is to high. But its not robbery if they are really mint, close by (location) and what your looking for. Could you post a pic? Something close up if you can (more the better really). Look.... we cant say if they would be worth that much to you. But if we can see them, we definitely can tell you if they are mint or not. We know what to look for beyond a general glance. This is just my opinion but if you get serious about any that are higher than used retail (see wvu80 sheet). Ask for them to pop the back off. And get a pic. For high buck cornwalls imo beyond just mint outside. I want stock (updated caps on crossover is fine imo). You can always dive into upgrades on them down the road (or not). But I would want the pwk original deal. Even more so if I'm new to these speakers. This forum is the greatest klipsch tool on the planet. Use it! Good luck.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSWisla Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) @Heritage_Head Thank you for your reply. I am looking at Klipsch because after owning some relatively inefficient speakers (86 dB) and taking it in the shorts on finding adequate amp(s) for them, I want some high efficiency speakers. I am looking at Klipsch and Zu. The Cornwalls came up locally which is why I am inquiring about them. I am mostly concerned with which model would work best in my room. I don't know if I can post a direct link, but here it is https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ele/d/barrington-klipsch-cornwall-raw-birch/6921429089.html Thank you for taking the time to have a look and comment. Edited June 28, 2019 by TSWisla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, TSWisla said: @Heritage_Head Thank you for your reply. I am looking at Klipsch because after owning some relatively inefficient speakers (86 dB) and taking it in the shorts on finding adequate amp(s) for them, I want some high efficiency speakers. I am looking at Klipsch and Zu. The Cornwalls came up locally which is why I am inquiring about them. I don't know if I can post a direct link, but here it is https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ele/d/barrington-klipsch-cornwall-raw-birch/6921429089.html Thank you for taking the time to have a look and comment. Those are 1980 (I think thats a U in the s#). In raw birch. I had a set in raw birch that were 1981. I thought I could see a few small chips but he's pretty strong on his "not a single chip" claim. The grill on the one looks replaced or fishy on this pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Thats not how they look from factory. this was my 1981. The lighting and flash on his camera is part of it. But you can see the cut on his grill isn't factory. Im looking for a better pic. I don't have them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Send him a question. Ask if the grill was replaced on one or both? It might just be the flash on his camera. Flash makes grills on heritage cloth look pretty strange sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSWisla Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 I will do that. Thank you. But do you think that these are still too expensive? Will they work in my room or should I look for a newer model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 As far as the speakers they appear to be in great shape (would need to be stained or finished imo). Are you cool with raw wood or have wood working skills? Raw unfinished can have good value depending on who's buying them. Its a clean canvas ready to be finished how you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Your room size is fine. How are you set up? Speaker wall 11 or 16? In the pic I posted I had a small room sat like 7" away and had them on the long wall but close. They sounded great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Newer won't be better or it can be better. Depends on what newer your comparing to what older. I like Paul Klipsch's original stuff. But I don't have side by side comparisons with hours and hours to tell you its better. He built those speakers to last 2 life times (no sarcasm). Some like the chorus 2 better than cornwalls. They cost less too. They are the extended heritage line. Many smarter more experienced guys than me on here will tell you they curb stomp cornwalls pretty easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSWisla Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) The speakers go on the 11' wall. I will see what info I can gather from this guy. If he is the original owner, he should know everything! I like the raw wood, but I really love the dark walnut rub. I have done many wood projects, so it would be NP. Edited June 28, 2019 by TSWisla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 They might know more and have actually had the two side by side (A,B) them and whatever (bla bla bla). Pffff what does that even really prove anyways.......right? 🙄 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, TSWisla said: The speakers go on the 11' wall. I will see what info I can gather from this guy. If he is the original owner, he should know everything! I like the raw wood, but I really love the dark walnut rub. I have done many wood projects, so it would be NP. Yes 👍. So for you that is a big plus. 11' wall is fine. They want corners (i didn't but room didn't let me). The name corn-wall means against wall in corner. So if your stuffing them in those corners thats another big + for these. Really most of what Paul built was corner with a small angle so the speaker is facing you in a direct line. Facing you is more important than the corner or walls. All 3 is pretty much the starting point on his speakers. Some rooms and seating can change the first two (wall and corner not best spots). But facing you will always be very important with horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Don't forget to ask for a pic inside one of those boxes. If he won't. Just make sure when you look at them that with both grills off all 3 speaker drivers match each other perfectly (side by side) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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