13Hertz Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Hello - These Heresy's that I have don't look like any others I've seen anywhere. I'm guessing they were possibly modified/painted? They have no grilles, and the badge does not have the PWK icon/logo....just "klipsch" in all lower case. Serial # stamped into cab on one is '49R268' - which I think dates them to 1977. The 2nd one is 'R' as well, but non-sequential to the first. They have the "E" type crossovers. The woofers are non-original (I would be embarrassed to tell you folks what I have in there at the moment, so, gonna skip that info). Also, the paper spec tags glued to the back are only partially filled out - only hand written info is "TESTED" with someone's signature. Thanks and I look forward to info on these. I've had them since about 1996. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I can tell you that the badges are actually quite desirable, as they are called the "Laser Badges". The paper labels on these older speakers commonly fade quite badly. If you plan on keeping them, I would highly recommend updating the crossovers with either Crites crossovers/kits, or Jantzen or Dayton Precision Audio from Parts Express, or I would be happy to update them for you. Not sure that the woofers are performing as they should since they are aftermarket, and not matched to the crossovers. Crites also has the correct woofers for these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13Hertz Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 jimjimbo - thanks for the quick response and info. I have just this week begun to set about restoring these - starting with unloading everything from the cab and sanding/painting. The original K-22's were mostly destroyed when I bought these at a garage sale in Shawnee, KS back in 95 or 96. I replaced them first with some type of 12 that a electronics shop recommended - and those didn't last but for about 6 years. I have just purchased a set of 1979 Eminence 12's that I think are correct - as the seller said they came out of Heresy's - but they are not stamped K-22 anywhere. Will know more when I get them. Regarding Crites - yes, I found that site a couple of years back and I know that they have quality replacement parts for these Heresy's. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, 13Hertz said: I have just this week begun to set about restoring these - starting with unloading everything from the cab and sanding/painting. They appear to be Heresy 1's in raw birch that have been painted, Crites is a very good source for parts with excellent service. Here's a link if you'd like to learn more about the history of the Heresy and changes made through the years: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13Hertz Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 Thanks jjptkd, I will give that info that you provided a read through. Appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcn3 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 @13Hertz - They are Heresy 1s from 1977. They don't seem to have a recessed motorbox (EDIT: motorboard) to support grilles so I'd assume they are Decorator models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13Hertz Posted August 29, 2022 Author Share Posted August 29, 2022 18 hours ago, jcn3 said: @13Hertz - They are Heresy 1s from 1977. They don't seem to have a recessed motorbox to support grilles so I'd assume they are Decorator models. Appreciate the info - any further info or description of "decorator model"? Guessing: maybe unfinished speakers to allow for custom painting/staining for Interior Design matching or something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcn3 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 7 hours ago, 13Hertz said: Appreciate the info - any further info or description of "decorator model"? Guessing: maybe unfinished speakers to allow for custom painting/staining for Interior Design matching or something like that? The Decorator models came in raw birch (unfinished). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 On 8/28/2022 at 10:23 AM, 13Hertz said: I have just purchased a set of 1979 Eminence 12's that I think are correct - as the seller said they came out of Heresy's the Eminence drivers for the Heresy were the k-22E , or the k-42 made by Eminence for the Pro Heresy type speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13Hertz Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, OO1 said: the Eminence drivers for the Heresy were the k-22E , or the k-42 made by Eminence for the Pro Heresy type speakers Thanks OO1 - the person I purchased the 12's from said they came out of Heresy's and to me they look exactly like Eminence K-22's (but are not stamped with "K-22"). They are stamped with a very cryptic string of alpha-numerics: '12QPHE8AX' and also '67 - 7945'. Do you think that they are correct for Heresy's? Here are some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 hours ago, 13Hertz said: Thanks OO1 - the person I purchased the 12's from said they came out of Heresy's and to me they look exactly like Eminence K-22's (but are not stamped with "K-22"). They are stamped with a very cryptic string of alpha-numerics: '12QPHE8AX' and also '67 - 7945'. Do you think that they are correct for Heresy's? Here are some pics. Yes they are , the klipsch sticker is missing , so it's harder to tell , but the code number 12QPHE8AX is indicative of a klipsch Product , here is a klipsch woofer with the same markings BTW , for your crossovers , do not settle for anything less than Klipsch original capacitors from @JEM Performance since these capacitors will restore the original klipsch sound , but then again anything else will sound very different , the selling price of klipsch factory capacitors is on par with Aftermarkets . https://jemperformanceaudio.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13Hertz Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, OO1 said: Yes they are , the klipsch sticker is missing , so it's harder to tell , but the code number 12QPHE8AX is indicative of a klipsch Product , here is a klipsch woofer with the same markings BTW , for your crossovers , do not settle for anything less than Klipsch original capacitors from @JEM Performance since these capacitors will restore the original klipsch sound , but then again anything else will sound very different , the selling price of klipsch factory capacitors is on par with Aftermarkets . https://jemperformanceaudio.com/ Very much appreciated that you were able to confirm these 12's (expected any minute now via UPS) are correct/Klipsch woof's. Now, let's see if they are in the shape claimed by the Seller. Regarding X-overs: I will check out the JEM site - was thinking to just get Crites new units, but if mine can be brought back to factory specs, then that's what I'd prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oicu812 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 @13Hertz Is this a crack in the basket? If so, it will need to be re-welded or replaced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13Hertz Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share Posted September 1, 2022 12 hours ago, Oicu812 said: @13Hertz Is this a crack in the basket? If so, it will need to be re-welded or replaced. Hello Oicu812 - thanks for the keen eye and question. I looked carefully at both woofers just now and what's seen in that pic is definitely not a crack - must be hair or fuzz. In fact, I looked the speakers and baskets over with a bright halogen light to be sure that they both look OK. Other than a mismatch of shade between the two speakers (one is much darker gray than the other) - they seem just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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