TBrennan Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 I doubt the Germans fighting at Verdun thought the French were "wipmish". Fact is that the French suffered casualties in The Great War such as Americans have never suffered, we've no right to judge them. The Germans in 1940 would have gone through an American army just as easily as they went through the French, had an American army existed then as much more than some tough Regulars manning Hawaii and The Phillipines. At least the French don't let government tell them where they can smoke or not. I suspect the average inhabitant of Marsailles or Brest is a much tougher character than an American suburbanite drinking Starbucks in his penis-envy SUV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 TB, Crackin' me up as usual. Anywho, TB what can you you tell me about Verdun in WWII. I was cleaning out my grandfather's house after he died last year and came across a medal from the town of Verdun in gratitude for their liberation. Seems like his biys ttok it back from the Germans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 I think Patton's 3rd Army was in that region, they captured the fortified city of Metz not far to the east of Verdun. The fighting at Metz was very severe but I don't think there was alot of fighting at Verdun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkl Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 "MKL, hey listen boy you start with your usual one sided propaganda bull$hit AGAIN!" Actually, I rarely stray to discussing poltics on this board, so I dont think I *have* any usual propaganda. I'm really not sure I understand what your problem was with my comment, I was just showing an analogy to another dictator which liked to kill people. No, I didn't mention all of the different groups, but I felt it was unnecessary for my comment. I'm catholic, lots of catholics were also killed by Hitler, did I feel the need to mention it, Nope, I wasn't givign a history lesson, just a quick point. I hate making political statements on boards, even more so on audio boards, The whole "terrorists were courageous" bull$hit just really got my blood pumping:) But, I went to work for a few hours, and am much calmer now:) So , Ears I appologize for whatever wrong you feel I caused you, and I just want to let you know, I really really dont have any usual propaganda, one sided or not:) -mkl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 MKL, I hear you,nothing personal against you. All the BS seen on TV made me a bit too agressive.No more news for today I'll have to stick to my subwoofer section more,the subwoofer section is derailed without me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkl Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Roger that ears, I think we were both a little too wired and too aggressive. No harm, no foul. -MKL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forresthump2 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 It all comes down to one thing. W Bush won the election now years ago and the Liberals are still pissed about it and whiney, Desperate losers. Canadians of course are all mostly Pacifist, Socialists like the New Sour Grapes, Clinton-mindset, Reactionary, Image-over-Substance, Idealism-over-Realism-results Democratic Party. So you see it IS all about Politics. Look at what Clinton did, including changing the U.S. policy to regime-change in Iraq. Desert Fox and Bosnia (more regime-change: Milasovich). UN was against these - No approval. NO resolutions from the US Congress. Plus in Bosnia Clinton exceeded the limits of his War Powers. So you see, you can laugh at the miserable Liberals and know what they're all about now with this huge uproar - Partison Politics over Country. I'm out of here. Enjoy the Academy Protest. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Forrest Never was so little said with so many words. Are you saying that people are against the war BECAUSE Al Gore lost the election. By extension then, everyone who voted for W. is pro-war? Your logic sugests, I don't know,...a brain tumor? Your world is very simple. Everything fits nicely into place. I wish I could get a pair of velcro shoes and jump right in too. However, I think that people's anti-war reasoning may be a little more diverese and complex than you think. Give me your address and I'll send you a "I'm Special" helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PYRO Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 ---------------- On 3/23/2003 11:47:58 AM TBrennan wrote: Pyro----Those Germans that bought you beers were just sucking-up to you, they're a nation of ball-washers. Had they won the war they'd have been thumping their chests, beating the drums and hammering down the Poles, Russians and Jews. As Caesar said of them, none are more overbearing in victory or more obsequious in defeat. Or as the English say the Germans are at your throat or at your feet. ---------------- You are probably right, but what the hell FREE GERMAN BEER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PYRO Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 ---------------- On 3/23/2003 2:57:30 AM Kain wrote: WTF is your problem?? I DON'T WATCH THE LOCAL NEWS. I WATCH SKY NEWS, BBC, AND CNN. SO STOP COMPLAINING THAT I GET "ALL THIS INFORMATION" FROM THE LOCAL MEDIA . Secondly, I watched an interview on BBC with Dick Cheney (is that how even spell his name?? Like I care). Anyway, the interviewer asked him that even if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, they won't even be able to strike America from that distance. Cheney agreed. The interviewer then asked why America is still going ahead with their "war" with Iraq. He replied "Because it's "doable"." WTF??!?!?!?!! THEY ARE ATTACKING JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN?? Why doesn't America attack/bomb North Korea??? IT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN FIGHT BACK. Americans are SCARED of that because they fear death (cowards). They barely have any resistance in Iraq and so they went ahead with their "plans." ---------------- 1. U.S. media is commonly known to be liberal-biased. 2. "Why doesn't America attack/bomb North Korea???" The use of Military is a last resort! They are using political and economic means at this phase of negotiations. By the way why is North Korea acting the way they are now? They feel left out, they want money and yes they want oil. And why do they only want to talk with the U.S. and not countries in their own region like China? Because China won't give them crap. North Korea is trying to extorit money from the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PYRO Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 ---------------- On 3/23/2003 2:57:30 AM Kain wrote: WTF is your problem?? I DON'T WATCH THE LOCAL NEWS. I WATCH SKY NEWS, BBC, AND CNN. SO STOP COMPLAINING THAT I GET "ALL THIS INFORMATION" FROM THE LOCAL MEDIA . Secondly, I watched an interview on BBC with Dick Cheney (is that how even spell his name?? Like I care). Anyway, the interviewer asked him that even if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, they won't even be able to strike America from that distance. Cheney agreed. The interviewer then asked why America is still going ahead with their "war" with Iraq. He replied "Because it's "doable"." WTF??!?!?!?!! THEY ARE ATTACKING JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN?? Why doesn't America attack/bomb North Korea??? IT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN FIGHT BACK. Americans are SCARED of that because they fear death (cowards). They barely have any resistance in Iraq and so they went ahead with their "plans." ---------------- 1. U.S. media is commonly known to be liberal-biased. 2. "Why doesn't America attack/bomb North Korea???" The use of Military is a last resort! They are using political and economic means at this phase of negotiations. By the way why is North Korea acting the way they are now? They feel left out, they want money and yes they want oil. And why do they only want to talk with the U.S. and not countries in their own region like China? Because China won't give them crap. North Korea is trying to extorit money from the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PYRO Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 Nothing like repeating yourself.......OOPS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Kev, Too much,you hit the nails in all the important places.ForrestGump political coffin is sealed ForrestGump looks at the world thru the very special BRAINWASH ACME lens,it distorts the facts and erases evidence.Poor Gump I think you are correct Kev,ForrstGump has a large brain tumor LOL This section of the Klipsch site is by far the most entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Pyro---That the media is Liberally biased is a common mantra but a cursory examination shows this isn't true. The vast majority of newspapers, newsmagazines and TV networks are in favor of "Free Trade" and the dissenting opinion on this is given very little coverage. They favor the Conservative view on economic issues. Labor issues get very little coverage; Labor is the litmus test for Liberals as no other group is fought by Conservatives as tenaciously as Organized Labor is. And note that all newspapers and TV stations are owned by, well owners; and business owners are not noted for their Liberal views. Most mainstream media I've read also are against such issues as Living Wage initiatives and Minimum Wage increases. Note that on the issues that REALLY matter, the ones that will cost Business money, the majority of mainstream media outlets are Conservative. It's easy to be Liberal on matters such as Gay Rights and such because such issues are essentially harmless to Business as they don't cost any money. Here in Chicago we have 2 newspapers and neither is Liberal. The Sun-Times is a reactionary rag and home to the columns of Novak, Will and Chavez. The other paper, The Tribune, is a moderate Republican paper, sort of a Jacob Javits or Nelson Rockefeller sort of paper. It hosts some Liberal columnists but is a moderate paper. Now if we don't have a Liberal paper in Chicago what are the chances of Witchita or Kileen Texas having one? I think it serves the purpose of the Conservatives for people to think they are being picked on in the Press. Now here we have the Conservatives, the people with the most power and money, whining all the time how they're being picked-on. Poor babies. Think about it Pyro, have your local papers and TV stations been demanding a raise in wages or a return to fair trade? And if not how can they be Liberal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Kev, Remember thinking is bad,asking questions considered a crime.Following a trend set by the machine is the only way. After all the posts made about the war in Iraq,about all this mess I must be on the BLACK list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 I hear you Ear. I feel like I'm puttin my *** on the line here but all I'm doing is encouraging the closed-minded to consider other perspectives. The most dangerous situation is a climate where no one does this. AND it is fun as all hell to ride Forrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Tbrennan, Mantra and cursory? Come on pal, the balance of your writing would indicate a rather immature style that wouldnt support the use of those big words. Who are you trying to impress? Doesnt cursory mean brief and superficial? Did you mean it that way? I dont think so. Labor doesnt have a lot do with all this. Its more of an individual thing. Many union members are conservative and there are conservatives that support unions. The media is liberal. If you cant figure that out you must be on a different planet. Hell, they admit it. Did you ever see a poll on political affiliation of journalists? Check it out man. Explain the success at Fox News. If Fox News is available, I dont know anybody that watches CNN, NBC, CBS or ABC anymore. Back to the union thing. Stop protecting the scum within the ranks and you will see a certain surge in support. Yes, even from conservatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PYRO Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 Well put boomac.... CNN already admitted that they were a liberal broadcasting station due to their worldwide audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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