garymd Posted December 28, 2003 Author Share Posted December 28, 2003 Thanks Dave. Getting back to normal. Man was that a great meal. Crab is out of season but I had rack of lamb and the wife got scotch lobster (along with a few crown & gingers plus wine). Incredible. I drink about once a year. Even with all the food it hits me pretty hard. My son is salivating over the heresys. He knows they will be included in his graduation present along with the fisher and my old cd player. He'll be set for sure. I just hope I can host a few get-togethers with the heresys complementing the cornwalls as the rears in the HT. What a beautiful combo that will be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Gary, can you adopt me as your 41 year old son so I can inherit some really cool gear of yours, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted December 28, 2003 Author Share Posted December 28, 2003 ---------------- On 12/28/2003 11:05:11 PM jt1stcav wrote: Gary, can you adopt me as your 41 year old son so I can inherit some really cool gear of yours, too? ---------------- Jim, First you gotta make that 12 hour drive north. I don't adopt anyone I've never met. I'm sure there's something really cool around here I can will to ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 That's okay...It's kinda hard to call you "Daddy" when you're only 3 years older than me anyway. By the way, your Heresy's look great. Your friend did a fantastic job on 'em! Can't wait to see the finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg928gts Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 New info is up, including the article from "Fine Woodworking" on using an iron and Titebond II to attach veneer. The unbacked veneer is really nice. It's thick enough to sand and actually work like wood. Real woodworking! I'm having a blast doing this project. No comments on the PWK glue? Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 greg, Fantastic! I saw the pwk glue, and thought nah- he's looking for comments..........cute though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheltie dave Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Greg, how much $$ did you have to pay to get that special bottle of PWK from the factory? I was just wondering whether it was delivered by a guy driving a '52 Hornet Special with a Tennessee drawl Hope he has more in the truck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Greg, Looking good. I like that glue does it throw off fumes?. I used contact cement on my Khorns and was high for a week. I think I'll have to try your method when I get around to doing my Heresys and KG-4.5s with the black walnut. One thing I found was that by using purple automotive masking tape to align the pieces there was none of that tape glue left on the veneer to clog up the pores. That required much less sanding to get a smooth finish. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 here's a hot link to the page. looking good, minor miscalculation notwithstanding. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg928gts Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Yeah, I guess the PWK glue thing was too obvious. But I thought I'd get some kind of commentary! The glue just smells like Elmers, not bad. Be careful Rick, I don't know if this iron-on process will work with NBL or paper backed veneer. I've noticed a big difference in the thickness of the actual hardwood that you have to work with. NBL is paper thin, so if you're running an iron over it and a block of wood to set the glue, it's possible to scratch the veneer or rip right through it. This raw veneer is really nice, I wish I hadn't bought the NBL rosewood for my Khorns. Someone suggested the NBL to me because it's so much easier for a novice to work with, but the end result is not the same quality as with the raw. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Greg, I sent you an email and a PM thorough the BBS here. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 I agree on both counts. I like the thickness of raw veneer,which I used, and I'm kinda kicking my butt that I didn't buy rosewood myself. The thing that stopped me is that raw rosewood is usually about 7" wide and I doubted my ability to assemble and tape a sheet for the front of the Khorns with that many pieces. I used the iron on banding for the edges. Those craftsmen down in Hope did such a beautiful job with rosewood didn't they? Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg928gts Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Yes they did. I wonder if they used strips of veneer, or if they used 3/4" rosewood veneer plywood? You know, I realized after the fact, that one edge of that zebrawood was trimmed already!! Duh. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 whoops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 I'm pretty sure that I've read that they selected the veneer in house. We'll have to ask Andy HDBRbuilder. Are you out there Andy? Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 They used hardwood plywood, but it's lumber core till sometime in the 70's. Lumber core has much thicker veneer on it, not like the paper thin stuff on newer style plywood. Greg, I sent email to you again, let me know if you don't get it. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 This has been really neat! Thanks for sharing the information. Rick: Beautiful job, too, on the veneering of your Klipschorns! Maybe I should try to do mine, but I'm afraid I'll mess it up! The work you did looks fabulous, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Greg, From one woodworker (named Gregg, too!) to another, great job! Very clear, detailed photos and text. I daresay you could submit it to FWW for publication! Seriously. I especially liked your candid photos and descriptions of what went wrong (been there, done that, nice to see how you fixed things). Well done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. patrick Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Greg, Ditto fini's comments on the great job and the suggestion you submit it to Fine Woodworking....one of my "must read" mags. In my 2nd childhood now and trying to learn asap on both subjects (stereo and woodworking). Thanks to Tom for the hot link, too. Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 From Andy HDBRbuilder, "veneered panels for k-horns came custom-matched and pre-applied from the vendor to the plant...with edge banding already on them and front panels pre-cut to size...except for the upper panels, which still had the corners cut off at the plant. Veneered panels for the Belles came the same way. Veneered panels for Heresys and Cornwalls came the same way, but had to be ripped with the rippied edge facing the rear of the cabinet, then mitered, at the plant." Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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