yromj Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I've been slightly considering the Rotel 1056 over the Yammy 2400 or Denon 3805. The Rotel doesn't have one key feature that I want, 6/7.1 out of the box. (It requires an outboard amp for the extra 2 channels.) I've never gotten to hear Rotel and Klipsch together, but I'm hearing that Rotel has a much more "audiophile" sound to it. In other words I'm hearing that the sound is more along the line of seperates than the others. Can anyone verify/dispute this? The 1056 is a little more than the Yammy, but about the same price as the 3805. Of course the 3805 has a lot more features and is 7.1. I hate this, I started out looking for something in the $500-$800 range and now I'm actually considering something over $1k. John- Who thinks when all is said done the 1400 or 2803 will make him very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I have not heard the 1056 but if it shares some of 1068 pre/pro its gonna blow these 1k avr's away especially in 2ch music.I have the 3805 in my house and its very nice,in HT its great but needs amp,for 2ch the Rotel is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksdad Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 rotel is very good, but there are so many to choose from, rotel is better than most avr's, but not as good as many seperates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I'm actually heading over to one of my local (well, if you call 40 miles away local) competitors who features Rotel to check them out. Unfortunately, all they carry is Paradigm, B&W, and Martin-Logan. No Klipsch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I would have to say yes even though i never heard one. 'Every reveiw i read with klipsch owners with rotel was positively positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Rotel makes solid, excellent sounding separates. Rotel and Klipsch sound very good togheter although perhaps not as good as Klipsch/aragon or Klipsch/B&K. PM me if you have specific questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewishAMerPrince Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 ---------------- On 3/25/2004 1:24:13 PM damonrpayne wrote: Rotel makes solid, excellent sounding separates. Rotel and Klipsch sound very good togheter although perhaps not as good as Klipsch/aragon or Klipsch/B&K. PM me if you have specific questions. ---------------- I guess we all have an opinion, but I recently tried the BK Ref50 processor and their 5.1 amp in setup A/B setup with my Rotel separates and I was honestly not as impressed with the warmth and clarity of the HF with the B&K as I am with my Rotel. On the B&K String instruments seem to have the slighest bit of "steelie" sound on clasical music. Bells seemed just a bit too metallic, etc. Jerry Rappaport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Jerry - just PM'd you. Griff - would like to hear your opinion after you check the Rotel stuff out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 My opinion, after yesterday's get-together (a very positive one for my local business dealings - could be an alliance of sorts to be formed between our two companies) is that the Sherbourn amps absolutely trounce the Rotels. The Rotel pres are much more user-friendly and feature-rich than the Sherbourns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksdad Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 yeah i think of rotel as intro to high end, my b&k gear absoutly beats up on my old rotel gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PYRO Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 ---------------- On 3/26/2004 9:14:12 AM marksdad wrote: yeah i think of rotel as intro to high end, my b&k gear absoutly beats up on my old rotel gear ---------------- Before using a wide stroke across the Rotel line marksdad, who by the way was one of the advocates for the Rotel line when I was in the market, what rotel amp did you use in your system? (RMB-1075) I started with the RMB-1075, it was nice but I found that it was lacking on both ends of the spectrum. Just a little bit better sounding then my Yamaha AVR. So I returned it and moved up to the RMB-1095, oh what a difference. The RMB-1095 is a great amp delivering a nice neutral sound across the spectrum. It challenges the previously mentioned amps, B & K etc. and is value priced. Can't comment on Rotel Receviers. Did hear a B&K 307 AVR with RF-7's, sounded nice but in the end went with seperates. I endorsed this message and I do own: Rotel RSP-1066 Rotel RMB-1095 Klipsch RF-7, RC-7, RS-7, RSW-15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I listened to several Rotels at the dealership the other day - I found them all to be quite nice sounding, but the mighty all-monoblock, individually powered Sherbourn 7/2100 just dominates them all in sheer headroom and cleanliness. Again, I wish to emphasize - Sherbourn's PT-7000 is downright primitive compared to Rotel's pres. I have to believe, though, that a Rotel pre would match up quite nicely with the 7/2100 (or the 5/1250 if you're not equipped with 7.1 outs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PYRO Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I considered Sherbourn amps when I was in the market, but like B & K, I didn't have a local dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I always thought B&k as seperates was a budget amp. Just like rotel. Their receivers aren't i know. I would think aragon would be the way to go if you had the cashola. Seeing how klipsch makes them. You would think they would try and match it up pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Am I missing something? The Sherbourn and Outlaw Audio preamps have the exact same layouts, front and back! Same company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 ---------------- On 3/27/2004 3:20:58 PM kenratboy wrote: Am I missing something? The Sherbourn and Outlaw Audio preamps have the exact same layouts, front and back! Same company? ---------------- Nope. Same factory in Taiwan, but very different parts. Sherbourn's people are in Taiwan, ordering specific parts for their amps and passing them along to the manufacturing plant. Outlaw, OTOH, hands the specs to the plant, and the plant uses what they see fit. Oh - and in case anyone was concerned about the "chinese" factor with Sherbourn - they back all their stuff with a full 5 years parts and labor, unlike your big Japanese companies like Pioneer, Yamaha, et al who give you 2 years if you're lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I don't care where it is made. AMD makes their CPU's in Malaysia Most all computer parts are made in Taiwan or China My $1000 Canon DSLR is made in Taiwan I am sure anyone can screw together a amp While I like stuff to be made in Japan or the USA, Taiwan is very quickly becoming Japan V2.0 - same for much of the stuff coming out of China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 My basic position is that as long as the plant isn't a sweatshop, quality parts are used, and the manufacturer stands behind the product with a serious warranty, it could come from anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 My new APC battery backup for my computer came from Bangalore, India (thats wherw Dell and all those companies do their stuff), and the quality seems to be very good. Figure, get some semi-educated, literate people in a classroom for 2 weeks, and you can have them do pretty much anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleve Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 All of my DVD's, including my most recent aquisitions, are 5.1 I don't think I've ever seen '7.1' on a label. Is there in fact a "7.1 DVD" or is the 7.1 'synthesized' from a 5.1 signal by the a/v processor? Just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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