Colin Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Here are potential bands for the top ten list; they are Rock N Roll Music Hall of Fame inductees. The question is who should be on the top ten list? How does one choose between Michael Jackson and ZZ Top? 1. Chuck Berry James Brown Ray Charles Sam Cooke Fats Domino The Everly Brothers Buddy Holly Jerry Lee Lewis Elvis Presley Little Richard 1. The Coasters Eddie Cochran Bo Diddley Aretha Franklin Marvin Gaye Bill Haley B. B. King Clyde McPhatter Ricky Nelson Roy Orbison Carl Perkins Smokey Robinson Big Joe Turner Muddy Waters Jackie Wilson 2. The Beach Boys The Beatles The Drifters Bob Dylan The Supremes 3. Dion Otis Redding The Rolling Stones The Temptations Stevie Wonder 4. Hank Ballard Bobby Darin The Four Seasons The Four Tops The Kinks The Platters Simon and Garfunkel The Who 5. LaVern Baker The Byrds John Lee Hooker The Impressions Wilson Pickett Jimmy Reed Ike and Tina Turner 6. Bobby "Blue" Bland Booker T. and the M.G.'s Johnny Cash The Isley Brothers The Jimi Hendrix Experience Sam and Dave The Yardbirds 7. Ruth Brown Cream Creedence Clearwater Revival The Doors Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers Etta James Van Morrison Sly and the Family Stone 8. The Animals The Band Duane Eddy The Grateful Dead Elton John John Lennon Bob Marley Rod Stewart 9. The Allman Brothers Band Al Green Janis Joplin Led Zeppelin Martha and the Vandellas Neil Young Frank Zappa 10. David Bowie Gladys Knight and the Pips Jefferson Airplane Little Willie John Pink Floyd The Shirelles The Velvet Underground 11. The (Young) Rascals The Bee Gees Buffalo Springfield Crosby, Stills and Nash The Jackson Five Joni Mitchell Parliament-Funkadelic 12. The Eagles Fleetwood Mac The Mamas and the Papas Lloyd Price Santana Gene Vincent 13. Billy Joel Curtis Mayfield Paul McCartney Del Shannon Dusty Springfield Bruce Springsteen The Staple Singers 14. Eric Clapton Earth, Wind & Fire Lovin' Spoonful The Moonglows Bonnie Raitt James Taylor 15. Aerosmith Solomon Burke The Flamingos Michael Jackson Queen Paul Simon Steely Dan Ritchie Valens 16. Isaac Hayes Brenda Lee Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Gene Pitney Ramones Talking Heads 17. AC/DC The Clash Elvis Costello & the Attractions The Police Righteous Brothers 18. Jackson Browne The Dells George Harrison Prince Bob Seger Traffic ZZ Top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 I like the list up to number 4! Except I'd put the Stones at #1 Rock And Roll band of all time based on years playing and hit output over time. Missing also are Chigago, Moody Blues and The Kinks. I agree it is difficult to pick a top ten for everyone, it is so subjuctive. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 It says at the bottom of the article, that he did not include Solo Artists, that's why no Elvis, Janis, Jimi, Dylan, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Lists Lists lists...they always run a bit too short. From your Oldies lists...you missed... Slowhand - Yeouch! Albert King Taj Mahal Be Bop Deluxe UFO Traffic/Stevie Winwood Emerson Lake and Palmer Tangerine Dream The Who Little Feat From the last 20 Years The Jam The Psychedelic Furs Camper Van Beehtoven/Cracker The Church Bush The Cure Flesh For Lulu ( A Moonie type band) The Smithereens The Replacements/Paul Westerberg The Stranglers REM How about a dab of grunge Nirvana Soul Asylum Now the Punk Guys...Fun or Furious Rancid B52s The Ramones The Clash Green Day The Offspring MXPX And lets not forget my Guitar Favorites Jeff Beck Joe Satriani Eric Johnson AND NOW FOR THE 21st CENTURY! Trapt Auidoslave Queens of the Stone Age 3 Doors Down Chevelle Creed Cold Default Eve 6 Foo Fighters Fuel Hoobastank Nickelback Puddle of Mudd Smashing Pumpkins The White Stripes The Vines 12 Stones Theory of a Deadman Evanescence AFI POD The Strokes WHHEEEEEEEEEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Todd---Yeah but Elvis did his best work with one band, a band that certainly existed as a recording and touring unit. And Joplin did her best work as a member of Big Brother. I remember that lots of hippys wouldn't listen to Joplin after she left Big Brother because she "sold out". Not to mention that she went musically downhill after Big Brother anyway. And the Jimi Hendrix Experience, Hell, that was a band, not a guy. So I don't think the guys reasoning holds up Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 CLU - you included Bush, but dissed Radiohead and Faith No More? Good lord, man. Expand your horizons already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 ---------------- On 3/28/2004 11:41:03 PM TBrennan wrote: So I don't think the guys reasoning holds up Todd. ---------------- I'm not saying his reasoning holds up, just that he did have a reasoning. It's just like when people rate the best (singer, guitar player, etc.) alive, so they can leave out anyone who is passed away. I try to make my own top 10 lists all the time, but I never write them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 I just can't understand how longevity should play any part whatsoever in how a band ranks in such a list. So what if Aerosmith has been around for 30 years? (1st album, S/T, in 1974) That doesn't mean they weren't completely irrelevant after Permanent Vacation. Same thing with the Stones. They're a laughingstock now. They were a laughingstock after the Steel Wheel...chairs, as coined by Mad Magazine, tour. Before they were a laughingstock, they were a copycat band. In Her Magesty's Satanic Service came out about 6 months after Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. So much of their material is obviously a hijacking of whatever was popular at the time. Kinks and Beatles in the 60's and eary 70's. Disco in the late 70's. How does that make them superior to, say, Cream, who, indirectly, pioneered the heavy metal genre with their riff-driven brand of power rock, but only lasted 3 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 That is the crappiest top ten i ever seen. U2 shouldn't even been on their. Bob Marley was great but not top ten great. I love PInk Floyd and i don't even know if they would make the top ten. We are talking rock bands here and i did not even see Metallica. Which is crazy is even crazier not to even see Black Sabbath. Music is so subjective and i could make a list but tomorrow i would forget someone that was better. Just because their are so many greats. Jimi Hendrix wheeeeew! Or they could of made it the top ten that change the world. It might of been easier. Even then wow! That would be hard. AcDC well i don't know about anyone else but that is rock and roll. Old Guns and Roses could take out alot of the ones mentioned. Old Aerosmith dang that was some good stuff. Tom Petty makes really good music. But know i don't agree with any of them accept the stones and the beatles (PoP). Their was only like one rock band even on the list. Who makes these and who votes? If it is just people on line then that would answer my question. They did say top ten rock not pop, psychodelic, folk, reggae, motown, punk? "oh" and by the way the guy from white stripes sucks on the guitar his music is ok but to beat out Eddie Van Halen is ludacris mOOn. Did you know Eddie was a prodigy on the piano when he was young he moved her from a different country and was a boy genius on the piano and was picked on constintly from other kids for being foreign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Top ten lists really don't bother me. They're fun to look at, analyze and react to. I do, however, agree with Chuckears about music being a very personal thing. There were several bands mentioned above that I wouldn't listen to if you promised me a years supply of Chicago Style Hot Dogs. Although this will date me, it's worth a mention. While in the service and stationed in Europe, I saw the Rolling Stones, The Who and The Spencer Davis Group, all live and in clubs. Given that atmosphere, The Spencer Davis Group would always be my first choice. Their music absolutely forced people to get up and dance. With that in mind, the SDG would have to be somewhere in my top ten. I'm cool with calling The Stones "Number One" though. They've done good for a long long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Here's my list: DUH BANDS FROM A to Z DARE HIT ALBUMS Anderson, Anderson And Their Son He Aint Heavy We Be All Related Blind Crop Duster Pilots Flap Those Arms Not Those Lips Chief Executive Offenders Songs O Da Workin' Dudes Dungaree Dragnetters Velcro Fly by Shootin EEEK Its a Mouse Thank You Fur lettin Me Be Mice Elf Feast of Fumbled Flea Flickers Take Da Fleas Offa Dat Thang Gomer Wears Tights Good Golly Miss Aunt Bea! Hackem , Over and Dover Whats Your Blood Type Instantaneous Insult Im In your Face, So What? Ja Lovey Ja Ba Ba Love Joy Git Off My Dogs Kernel Who? Thats Fried Chicken Yur Lickin Last On Your List We Met In The Walmart Mistaken Money Managers I Can Count On Your Wallet Nobodys Bidness Keepa Ya Mouth Shut or Else Oh You Did Did Ya Drop Dead Again, Please Painfully Petrified Projectiles Scared Stiff For Ever Over You Question Mark & the Mysterians Wheres My 96 Tears Record? Resistance Required Please Hold It Just One Dang Minute Santa and His Road Apples Im Getting Nuttin For Xmas Toddler Tracker Traps Trippin Da Light Cord Fantastic UUU Again Youre My Nightmare And Daymare VP In Public Meter Maids Me Do It Warts Is Yet to Come Kiss Dat Frog Goodnight X Them Out 4 Good Your Will, My Last Testament Y Chromosomes Anyone? Borrowing Your Brain Cell Zee Wider Paper Clips I Cant Drive 55 Or Walk For That Matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Scratch Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 What a joke: the Ramones? Bob Marley? Sly and the Family Stone? the Grateful Dead? the Velvet Underground? Gimme a break. You might as well throw in the Monkees. Obviously, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, and Led Zeppelin belong. I am not a big fan of the Who, but I admit that they belong in that list before the abovementioned. Here's my short list of bands to replace those above: The Police Rush Yes Genesis Bruce Springsteen The Doors Jimi Hendrix Dire Straits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Jabez---The Ramones were a VERY important and influential band, influential way out of proportion to how well they actually sold. They inspired hordes of musicians to tighten up, cut the crap and get back to basics. I know, back in 19and77 I was one of those guys. You gotta bear in mind that rock music was dominated by leaden, overarranged, soulless bands like Boston, Kansas, Forienger and Styx (well their Tommy Shaw songs were good). About the only fresh thing mid-70s was Thin Lizzy, who by the way, should be listed with the top 10 bands of all time, no doubt. So then you go and see the Ramones and it's an epithany; a little light goes on inside your head, it's like Jake Blues in church, "I see The Light". I stripped my drum kit down to 4 pieces and stopped playing fills. I reconcentrated on the beat, the drive, the relationship between bassdrum and snare; forget the toms. With a couple of pals we formed a power-trio that played stripped-down, fast rock and roll. We had a blast. The Ramones were a GREAT live band; in terms of power-drive, heavy-tone and sheer bloodyminded rock-steady they made Metalica sound like The Carpenters. The Doors didn't even have a bass player. How can you take a band seriously that doesn't have a bassist? The guys in that band were obviously missing the whole point. Plus they were a chick's band anyway, not many guys listened to them but all the chicks were ga-ga, I remember my wife and her girlfriend Maureen Duffy (man she was cute, I tried to get them to...ahh, nevermind) were goofy over Jim Morrison. Kind'a like a "hip" version of Justin Timberlake. Well that's how I see it anyway buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Scratch Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 ---------------- On 3/29/2004 2:20:39 PM TBrennan wrote: Jabez---The Ramones were a VERY important and influential band, influential way out of proportion to how well they actually sold. They inspired hordes of musicians to tighten up, cut the crap and get back to basics. ---------------- TBrennan -- I really do respect your view on the place of the Ramones in rock history, but I cannot agree with their placement in the top 10 rock bands of all time. Obviously, this is all very subjective. No doubt, some one is reading this post and asking increduously why the Backstreet Boys are absent from the top 10. Going by your logic though (i.e., that the band shook the foundations at the time), I would put the Sex Pistols or Nirvana (both of whom I do not like for varying reasons). What about Queen? They were pretty damned influential too. If musicians were drafting the list, Rush would be in there -- but you just know that some guy working for MSNBC is not going to put Rush even in the top 50 rock bands. He'd come up with some half-assed reasoning why the Insane Clown Posse or Simon and Garfunkel deserve higher placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Jabez----Great post, well reasoned and sensible. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpbc Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 I see no mention of 'Ten Years After' in any of the lists posted -- Alvin Lee and group were certainly "one of the best", in my opinion. Personally, "rock & roll" to me, will always be Little Richard, Fats Domino, Buddy Holly, Bill Haley & The Comets, and all the others from the 50's -- many of whom I had the good fortune of seeing in-person once or twice. Those were the days!!! Ouch -- getting old!! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipschfoot Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 The list is "Rock Bands" not rock and roll bands. That is a very large genre. Carol King could have been there for that matter. No Wilson Pickett? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 The Ramones were a GREAT live band; in terms of power-drive, heavy-tone and sheer bloodyminded rock-steady they made Metalica sound like The Carpenters. ---------------- The Ramones make Metallica sound like the Carpenters? That is insane not crazy insane. Metallica toured with the ramones and blew their sh!t in the wind. And another thing i read that radiohead compared to the beatles abbie road is even more insane. Yeah maybe from the radiohead internet poll voters. How is that even credable? I can obviously see you guys are biased towards these bands but get serious. That just aint happening. Their probally is only one band that could keep up with Metallica at a real show not an imaginary one. Would be ACDC they kick live to. The Ramones and radiohead were pretty big influences, and i do like them both, but to compare them to those bands. Metallica was a huge influence to. What about nirvana was a big influence doesn't mean i like them but they were. The post was about the best not influences. Were was Muddy Waters. Muddy electrified the blues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 C'mon Wheelman, Metallica are a bunch of plodders. They have no sense of or feel for Rock and Roll music, not that I've heard. I hear no sense of The Blues or Country Music in their music, it's very Germanic and pagan; music for the Suevi and Marcomanni around their campfires. Music to cut Roman's heads off by. My opinion ya understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Metallica does have a sense of blues on the load and reload albums. They have melody slamming riffs. That are articulate and tight. They do have their Pagan styles but that is the beauty of some of it. You obviously haven't heard Kirk Hammett play some of the most emotional leads you will ever hear. The Ramones Do? C'mon i like some of the ramones but they are way lamer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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