Gilbert Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Why the hell didn't anybody tell me refinishing my Khorns would be BIG PAIN. My god, I now have 1 completely taken apart, and I'm pissed that I started this in the Summer..............................Geezzzz, the temperature in my garage is well into the 100's, and I sweated my butt off taking one speaker completely apart, and then sanding each piece. WHAT A PAIN IN THEW ARSS! Now that I'm done sanding and lyseed oiling the speaker, I now have the other one to look forward too....Uuuuhg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale W Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Try working in a body shop sanding and painting cars all day long when its that hot outside . TIP: Work in the early morning Our shop runs summer hours when it's this hot outside , we start at 5:00 am and knock off at 1:00 or so without stopping for lunch . Good luck , i know what your going through . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InventiveAudio.com Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 What are you doing with the K-Horns and what type of finish are on them now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiob Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 DO NOT LINSEED!!!! BIG PROBLEM< PM me to find out proper process!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted July 28, 2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dale, while I was a student in Tampa FL, I worked part-time at a custom body shop. The guys there called me Sand-Boy, because I hated it so much. But I always loved the finished results of a perfectly sanded body, there's nothing like a glass smooth finish. As for the reason I'm refinishing my Khorns....It's to take out a couple of minor scratches, and to remove some sticky spots that were caused when I applied my very first coat of Boiled Lynseed Oil. Since then, I have thoroughly educated myself by reasearching threads on this forum, and by reading literature from wood finishing professionals. The scratches are (now...WERE) nothing major, they've just been bugging me since I purchased the speakers about 2.0 yrs ago. Radiob,..this is the 4th pair of heritage that I've refinished. All were refinished per factor spec/(Andy), with Boiled Lynseed Oil. I did something slightly different from spec, in that the first coat contains a slight mix with Mineral Spirits, which is a trick I learned for thirsty neglected wood. The wood grain will more readily absorb the BLO mix if you add a little MS. About 20% MS is what I've used. Anyway, so far, so good. I've finished 1 Khorn, and have 1 more to go. The others that I've refinished look IMO spectacular. But I am still interested in what you have to say. Please reply or PM me, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki Choi Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 I admire anyone who can do these kinds of things on his own... In my case, I had no experience or space to refinish my Khorns. So I relied on a professional furniture refinisher for two pairs of Khorns (refinished in lacqer) and an Academy. It wasn't cheap but the results were stunning. So, if you live anywhere near Seattle area, I highly recomment Maple Valley Furniture for refinishing Klipsch speakers professionally. Ki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiob Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 ---------------- On 7/28/2004 12:52:04 PM Gilbert wrote: Dale, while I was a student in Tampa FL, I worked part-time at a custom body shop. The guys there called me Sand-Boy, because I hated it so much. Radiob,..this is the 4th pair of heritage that I've refinished. All were refinished per factor spec/(Andy), with Boiled Lynseed Oil. I did something slightly different from spec, in that the first coat contains a slight mix with Mineral Spirits, which is a trick I learned for thirsty neglected wood. The wood grain will more readily absorb the BLO mix if you add a little MS. About 20% MS is what I've used. ---------------- While I am sure that you have finished 4 pairs of speakers with linseed oil, it clearly shows your in-experience as a re-finisher, and should stay a SAND BOY. I am in my 14th year as a professional refinisher, paintrers union trained 4 year program, and own my own refinishing business. If you would like to read the MSDS sheets on linseed oil, and see how much you have shortened the life of your cabinets, I would be happy to provide them for you. Linseed oil is a paint additive, made to retard the dring out of EXTERIOR oil base coating. Ever wonder when the smell would go away? YE BE WARNED ON THIS FOLKS< NO LINSEED OIL, if you all would like I can give you the e-mail of Craig Oconner, he is a chemist for Old Masters coatings,he is a very knowledgeble guy, and wouild be happy to advise you. I dont know much about how audio equipment works, but I know nearly everything there is to know for furniture re-finishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiob Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 If you would like an oil finish, buy some tounge oil, it is very easy to apply, looks good, and wont saturate the wood with a non drying oil, and protects well to. If you want to add some color to your Klipsch, then check into sikkens cetol products. Consult your local Benjerman Moore dealer, he will guide you. {and they wont stink} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I use Watco Danish oil once every 5 yrs. Wipe it on waite 15 min. then wipe till dry. Yes it has an oder but only for a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiob Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Watco is a good product, it is not linseed oil. My first set of k-horns, I put watco danish on, they came out nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I use Watco Danish oil once every 5 yrs. Wipe it on waite 15 min. then wipe till dry. Yes it has an oder but only for a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Funny, BLO is what Klipsch used direct from the factory on just about all non-lacquered finishes for years! Must have been some logic as to why they used it Mr. Refinishing genuis! I did an initial application of BLO on my Khorns when I got them a couple of years ago but I just normally use Liquid Gold spray or liquid to give them a warm glow every few months. I did not notice any adverse affects from the BLO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD1032 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 While I am sure that you have finished 4 pairs of speakers with linseed oil, it clearly shows your in-experience as a re-finisher, and should stay a SAND BOY. I am in my 14th year as a professional refinisher, paintrers union trained 4 year program, and own my own refinishing business. Actually, you sound like a 12-year old kid who has no idea what he's talking about and puts unnecessary hyphens in his words. I think I'm going with Frzninvt on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflash Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Gilbert, I know you are covered in sweat and saw dust, but POST PICTURES PLEASE. It may get the rest of us off are lazy behinds (me for sure). I have a pair of Cornwalls that I want to do, but I just need a little kick in the rear to go over the edge and start. Good Luck on your project. Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiob Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 ---------------- On 7/30/2004 7:08:41 AM Frzninvt wrote: Funny, BLO is what Klipsch used direct from the factory on just about all non-lacquered finishes for years! Must have been some logic as to why they used it Mr. Refinishing genuis! "I did an initial application of BLO on my Khorns when I got them a couple of years ago but I just normally use Liquid Gold spray or liquid to give them a warm glow every few months. I did not notice any adverse affects from the BLO." ---------------- LOL, why dont klipsch use it now Huh? Wonder why, if linseed oil is great! Wonder why..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiob Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 ---------------- On 7/30/2004 3:06:19 PM MD1032 wrote: Actually, you sound like a 12-year old kid who has no idea what he's talking about and puts unnecessary hyphens in his words. I think I'm going with Frzninvt on this one. ---------------- 12 year old boy here, leave the refinishing to a proffesional, stay behind your desk, and run spelling checks.[img src='http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/images/smilies/9.gif'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD1032 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 I will leave the refinishing to a professional. You do not strike me as being one, however, so I would definitely not ask your advice on this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Watco Danish Oil contains: Linseed Oil -- a large amount. It is a drying oil, and you can read the real deal here about BLO and tung oil: http://www.alan.net/prgfeat/tungoil.html Polymerization takes place as BLO dries. It expands slightly. The molecules crosslink to form a solid film. Cheers, Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 I'd like to take my equipment to a local professional for a BLO job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Gotta get this in before fini gets the last word in and the thread gets closed! Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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