rich0372 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 If any of you considered upgrading your crossovers for klf30s I highly recommend it I sent my crossovers to Dean WOW!!!!! GREAT JOB They sound amazing cleaner clearer tighter bass I thought the klf30s sounded good before It's definetly worth the $$ Dean do you do the klf c7 center? PS I'm listening to the speakers as I'm writing this and noticed the highs and mids not as bright they sound very clean I know this becuase a song came on that sounded very bright before thanks Dean Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Did the 10 gauge wire to the woofers make any difference? That was the soldering job from Hell. I guess you figured out that yellow and black were for the midrange and green and black were for the tweeter. I forgot to stick that note in the box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerFan Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Enjoy. One day I swear I'm going to have Dean upgrade my RF-7's and RC-7 then I'll be bragging also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgeraci Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Patience, that day will come, and yes, you should enjoy Dean's upgrade as much as I do. From now on, I want him to do any and all future Klipsch speakers I purchase down the road. (Heritage to be added sometime in the future) Dean: sorry, with work lately and getting the Peach up and running, I have not yet sent you back my RC-7 x-over. It has been sitting in my SUV for the past couple of days while I've tried to get away from work during the day to send it out. Tomorrow it is going out to you, I promise. Thanks again. Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Ain't the Peach sweet? Man, what a recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 I'm also enjoying Dean's "A" crossovers in my khorns as I write. Amazing job. I'll do a more in-depth review once they fully brake in. Shouldn't be long the way things are going. Well worth the price of admission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgeraci Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 ---------------- On 8/25/2004 5:46:10 PM DeanG wrote: Ain't the Peach sweet? Man, what a recipe. ---------------- Yes, it is. Mark has done a fantastic job. I just hooked it up very early this morning to my RF-7s and my 200 watt Rotel, and so far, I have only had the opportunity to listen to three songs. They were all off of Contraband, the new one from Velvet Revolver. Having listened to the album on a number of different people's systems, I have found that the overall sound of the album is difficult to get just right. But, not with the Peach. Smooth, creamy, detailed, and a nice soundstage. Oh, did I mention bass. Plenty o' bass with the RF-7s. My subs are not at all needed in this application. In fact, as much bass as with my solid state Classe (which I also love), but a much smoother sound - to be expected. Nice. I am going to try and wait until I get a chance to listen to it for about a week, etc. so that I can give the hybrid review - Mark's peach with a hefty SS amp. But, I can already tell you that I really like what I have already heard. Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich0372 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 Dean I think the 10 guage wire made a difference the bass is much smoother and tighter also they seem to have a little more bass than before if that makes any sense I did an a/b test with my klf20s with no upgrade and my klf30s with Deans crossovers this what I came up with The mids are clearer cleaner not harsh or grainy just detaied sound. The highs are not as bright and seem to be smoother. The bass was tighter and smoother (this is a big one because the 20s have 10" woofers instead of 12"s and the 10s allways sounded to me to be tighter) My conclution I know I was comparing klf20s to 30s and they are a little different sounding but the mids and highs sound be the same and the 30s won hands down Now the bass to me I liked the bass better out of the 20s before the upgrade but not anymore the 30s blew me away I don't even need a sub on anymore for stereo listening. Dean thank you ATTENTION KLF OWNERS RUN DON'T WALK TO THE NEAREST POST OFFICE AND MAIL YOUR CROSSOVERS TO DEAN YOU WILL THANK ME LATER Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantfmly Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I'm already working on finding out how much it would be. I'm getting ready to sell my house right now so it may have to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtop Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Rich and the rest of you guys, I contacted Dean and got a very prompt reply. Based on your recommendations here, I am considering doing it to the 5 KLF-30's I have in the HT. A couple of questions for you guys that have had this done... #1 - I listen at around -20 relative to reference volume. Never loud. The sound I get now is never harsh to my ear, even with the Yammie. Just clear, crisp and detailed. What should I expect? More detail? A more enveloping soundstage? #2 - Did this radically change your timbre? Did it have a different voice or just a clearer more articulate one? #3 - Did you find the improvements carried through to both 2 channel and HT? Or one more than the other? Dean has plenty of good references on this forum and that's good enough for me. Never been burned yet. I'm just trying to make sure that's it's something that applies to my situation. Thanks in advance. Redtop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 redtop, Dean just did my RF-7 crossovers. I use a Pioneer 49TXi that measures frequency response on 9 fixed bands for each channel. There was very little change before versus after the crossover change. I can and do run the system calibration routine twice with no change in anything and get as much variation as after the crossover replacement. As far as audible changes go with RF-7s, there is more detail and smoother highs. The changes benefit both movies and music on my system, but music benefits the most. As always, YMMV with KLF-30s. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Redtop likes imaging -- what do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Re: Immaging on RF-7s I am watching a movie that I have watched many times. The immaging is excellent. (Music is also excellent.) Background sounds are so detailed that you'd think you are there. Basically, the good has gotten a fair bit better. Nothing has gone down hill. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtop Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Thanks for the replies. I've been doing some more research on this forum and so far not a single negative (I'll keep looking Dean...), must be a conspiracy...or more probably they really are that good! I'm still all ears if anyone has something to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiob Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Dean, what are you doing to the crossovers and how are you testing the results? I was curios, I have the chorus2s. If you have a proven crossover upgrade I would be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgeraci Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 ---------------- On 8/26/2004 6:59:43 PM redtop wrote: #1 - What should I expect? More detail? A more enveloping soundstage? Yes, much more detail, imaging, and a wider soundstage. A colleague of mine heard DVD-Audio through my RF-7s through my SS setup, and he said it was the first system that sounded to him like the band was right there in the room (or on the other side of the wall). Part of that was my Classe pre/pro, but I would bet more of it was Dean's mod. #2 - Did this radically change your timbre? Did it have a different voice or just a clearer more articulate one? Slightly different voice, but not radically different. Of course, smoother on the top end. #3 - Did you find the improvements carried through to both 2 channel and HT? Or one more than the other? Yes, improvements carried over to 2 channel, both with tube and SS preamps. More improvements noticeable with music, but there are some nice HT benefits. ---------------- Hope that helps. Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich0372 Posted August 27, 2004 Author Share Posted August 27, 2004 Redtop I only tested with music and have to say the benifits are worth the $ more detail, smoother especially at loader volumes did not notice much difference in timbre I gave my review after only about 3 hours they sound even better now after break-in the soundstage really opened up it sounds sooo good I'm getting my klf 20s and klf c7 done also Rich PS Redtop I noticed a big improvment in bass with my klf 30s I felt before they were lacking a little considering the size of the woofers in them The bass is tighter smoother and hits harder Have Dean do two of them and compare you won't be disappionted (that way you can still listen to the other three) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtop Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Thanks for the feedback Carl and Rich. It's sounding more and more like a no brainer... One last question...Can't I get anybody of note to say that their crossover upgrade didn't do much and was a waste of money?? You know...like bi-wiring or bizillion dollar/ft silver speaker wire? hehe... Redtop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgeraci Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Keep looking. Have not heard any negative "feedback" yet. Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmboydoug Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Dean do you have a web site? (newbie question, no laughing at me!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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