Hardhead Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Just a suggestion, Al. You could leave the horn unpainted and let the customer paint it whatever color he wants. That would make it cheaper for you to make AND SELL, and your customers would have some flexibility and the joy of painting the inside of the horn. Otherwise, my point of view is the same as The Stones: "Paint It Black." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted April 1, 2005 Author Share Posted April 1, 2005 guys, It looks like Black is it, but I like the idea of letting the curtomer paint whatever way he likes. I will definitly have to paint the grill frame black before the cloth goes on. That will be easy though. Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Al, That looks wonderful. I'm glad you are choosing black. Is this first production going to be like the rest? Hate to keep buggin you about this but what are the mouth dimensions? If it is still not final....ok....i'll wait longer. So by looking at the picture, I see that adapters for the drivers will bolt on. Do you have a picture of the K-55 adapter? Will the adapter bolt on the throat and then the driver "screw" onto the adapter? jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Shellac, shellac, shellac. Paint sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I have a question, the horn seems to have two strips that run on the top and bottom faces, could that cause diffraction problems since the exit of the wave form will not be "smooth" on the top and bottom face? regards, tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted April 1, 2005 Author Share Posted April 1, 2005 JC, The mounting hole size should be the same as I have outlined earlier. It HAS TO be no biger than that or it won't fit in the Khorn! Dean, I like the shellac idea too. I'll suggest it to Martinelli. Tony, The strips you see are 3/4 inch back from the mouth. These will fasten to BACK of the grill cloth frame. The mouth will be flush with the front of the frame and will just touch the grill cloth. AL K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted April 1, 2005 Author Share Posted April 1, 2005 Guys, Here's the front view. Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 sure looks neat!!! tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
consistent Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Nice Work Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted April 2, 2005 Author Share Posted April 2, 2005 Thanks, but I didn't build it. Bill Martinelli of www.woodhorn.com did! All I did was design it like Bruce Edgar described. AL K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raypenn Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Al - Looks like your project is coming together nicely. It also looks like this topic is on track to set a record for number of views (although I am sure that some of us keep coming back to the topic multiple times for the latest information). Can't wait to "hear" testing and listening results. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted April 3, 2005 Author Share Posted April 3, 2005 Ray, Yep.. The forst prototype should be in here next week. I will do some instrument tests on it first. The Belle grill frame will be next to verify the fit in the Belle. Then two more for me followed by two for the Khorn which will be final test. That pair will be evaluated by my symphony orchestra quior memeber "expert"! Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg928gts Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Al, can this horn be purchased as a kit? That way the pieces could be veneered and then the horn assembled. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted April 4, 2005 Author Share Posted April 4, 2005 Greg, NO! Putting the horn together is NOT easy and requires special assembly jigs. A kit is not an option. AL K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Wow AL, That front view makes those things look like a true work of art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Al, What is the width of the red line in the attached photo? jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted April 5, 2005 Author Share Posted April 5, 2005 jc, The width of that mounting flange really isn't important. It simply is a lot narrower than the mouth width. The horn should be here later today. I'll measure it and edit this post later to include it. Al K. LATER: The mounting flagne (red line) is exactly 12 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Thanks Al, Actually, that measurement is critical for my installation. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted April 5, 2005 Author Share Posted April 5, 2005 jc, Here's the actual measured sizes for mounting. Al K. ERROR: The arrow showing the 8 3/16 inch dimension is WRONG. It should be pointing to the bottom extreme edge of the horn bottom plate just as the top arrow points to the extreme top edge of the top plate. Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Adams Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 I apologize for my lateness to this thread, however - I do have a tardy slip so I hope that will suffice. First of all, what a really cool project! Although it's not something I need (at least not at this time), I'm really fascinated by it. I'm also humbled by what you guys are capable of doing and your knowledge. No....actually, I think stuff like this makes me feel really stupid. Maybe THAT'S the reason I don't hang out in some forums. Anyhow, FWIW and for those who care....as evidenced by the eMachineShop.com website, CNC machine parts are no longer "exclusive" or "high tech". Materials science and high speed machining technology has driven the cost of machine parts waaaaay down. In fact, the software is just about in place that would eliminate that $90K/year CNC programmer. Based on "rules" and a vast memory of tool movements, the machine tool scans in 3D whatever object you want to make, auto-creates the 3D model & program, and dispenses that info to the CNC machining center. Naturally, it can also do this from a 3D drawing (model). The resulting cost drop rolls down into mold tooling as well. And speaking of molded parts, another option would be to make the horn from so-called pre-preg carbon graphite. This eliminates mixing/applying resins or "chopper guns" and gives a very fine looking product. Pre-preg cloth has the bonding resin impregnated into it and is only activated under heat and or pressure. There's even so-called room temp cure pre-preg. Anyhow, good luck with your project/product Al. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.