Parrot Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Dire Straits's "Brothers in Arms" is coming out on May 9 on SACD with a multi-channel mix. Should be cool. The catch is, it looks like it'll be a UK-only release, since it would have to come out on DVD-A, which is essentially dead, in the USA. But no matter: I just saw this link to a place that will sell it for only $16.95 with free shipping. I've never bought from them before, but am giving them a try. http://www3.cd-wow.us/promotion.php...2_1&affid=14282 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Cool. I'd like to see them bring out any of the previous 4 studio albums. I can't listen to "Money for Nothing". Ruined Dire Straits for 15 years for me. Would make for an easy skip on SACD though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 "I want my MTV. I want my MTV." You know at first, before it was a huge hit, MTV was upset about the song, since it was making fun of them. They changed their tune though when people figured it was promoting them. Kids nowadays don't even know that MTV used to play music videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranjith Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Try and download the live version of "brothers in arms" I believe it was performed at a function that has something to do with Nelson Mandela but anyway, the lead guitar in their live version is absolutely stunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Mark's tone is incredible let alone his talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 I have to get this on SACD. Not only for the multi-channel mix, but mainly for the SACD 2-channel. The CD is good, but the vinyl is better, and hopefully the SACD will do this excellent album justice in a digital format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 ---------------- On 4/23/2005 5:07:54 PM Parrot wrote: ...since it would have to come out on DVD-A, which is essentially dead, in the USA. ---------------- Why would it not be able to be released in SACD in the US? And, as usual, it seems that Sony has done its usual 'marketing best' to screw up SACD as it has with every other superior technology it touches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.cherry Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 great album would be nice as sacd... one smokin guitarist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 ---------------- On 4/23/2005 6:55:29 PM dragonfyr wrote: Why would it not be able to be released in SACD in the US? ---------------- Warners was behind DVD-A, would not have anything to do with SACD. Same as Sony would not have anything to do with DVD-A. I guess there are different contracts with different labels US as opposed to UK. The last Mark Knopfler release was SACD in UK, DVD-A in US. DVD-A pretty much exists now only as the flip side to *some* DualDiscs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 It will be interesting to see how they do the audio, since the original was recorded on digital at 48K. Upsample perhaps? Guess they would have to. Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 Yes, the original was 44.1 or 48. A very early digital recording. But digital chips are much better now than they were way back then. The original tapes have been transferred to analog for remixing, then sent to DSD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Why would you go from digital to analog back to digital? Of course, their analog would be about the best you could get, but you would still lose something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 There are excellent mixing engineers who prefer mixing on an analog mixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 If anybody's interested in Dire Straits vinyl, I have doubles of everything before Bothers in Arms. They've all only been played a few times(literally, just a few times). PM me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted May 31, 2005 Author Share Posted May 31, 2005 Just listened to the SACD multi channel mix of "Brothers in Arms." It arrived in today's mail from Hong Kong, ordered through www3.cd-wow.us The buzz about this release was correct. You'll hear things on it that you never heard before, but all in a very tasteful presentation without any frequencies noticeably goosed up. Highly recommended, even if you have only two-channel. The two-channel SACD layer sounds better (more real) than it ever has before, with even the weakest link, the drums and cymbals, considerably improved. The sax sounds so much better on "Your Latest Trick" that the previous release now seems like a joke. The same can be said for the thunder sounds that begin the last song, "Brothers in Arms." The new one seems real, the original version seems like a sound effects record. This is going to undoubtedly be a reference disc for a lot of people to show just how good a quality multichannel mix can be. And the great thing is it isn't some second- or third-tier title like those that are often used in demonstrations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 My CD was pressed in the UK, the songs in some cases had better and longer intros, as well as quality wise was well over the USA pressings... One of my favorite test cd's as well.. Now I will have to get this one too... The "I want my MTV" a LOT longer on the UK pressing..Also longer sax solos as well. So Cool!! Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 I never owned a copy of this record and was really not too familiar with the band other than what filtered through over the years. But about a year ago there was another thread here about this record so during my bi-monthly trip to the Public Library I checked out the CD. I listend to it straight trough once and then dipped into it a few more times over the next couple of weeks. My opinion? This is a pretty crappy record. It might be better if you spent some time sucking down bong rips while listening--but since I never really understood marijuana either . . . It's got everything that was so terrible about 80's pop/rock music-- you know, that synth Miami Vice drone. And half the songs are COMPLETELY interchangeable. The guitar work that I heard so much about--well, Knopfler san surely play the instrument, but you've heard it all before. And the LYRICS--just bloody AWFUL! The title track is so bad it really makes me CRINGE: There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones Now the sun's gone to hell And the moon's riding high Let me bid you farewell Every man has to die But it's written in the starlight And every line on your palm We're fools to make war On our brothers in arms And is this really a great recording? I don't think so, but then when it's so difficult to listen to the music it's kind of hard to pay attention to the recording quality. Why do so many people love this record? I'd really like to hear from you guys--what, exactly am I not getting here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy James Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 ---------------- On 5/31/2005 2:21:04 PM Allan Songer wrote: I never owned a copy of this record and was really not too familiar with the band other than what filtered through over the years. But about a year ago there was another thread here about this record so during my bi-monthly trip to the Public Library I checked out the CD. I listend to it straight trough once and then dipped into it a few more times over the next couple of weeks. My opinion? This is a pretty crappy record. It might be better if you spent some time sucking down bong rips while listening--but since I never really understood marijuana either . . . It's got everything that was so terrible about 80's pop/rock music-- you know, that synth Miami Vice drone. And half the songs are COMPLETELY interchangeable. The guitar work that I heard so much about--well, Knopfler san surely play the instrument, but you've heard it all before. And the LYRICS--just bloody AWFUL! The title track is so bad it really makes me CRINGE: There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones Now the sun's gone to hell And the moon's riding high Let me bid you farewell Every man has to die But it's written in the starlight And every line on your palm We're fools to make war On our brothers in arms And is this really a great recording? I don't think so, but then when it's so difficult to listen to the music it's kind of hard to pay attention to the recording quality. Why do so many people love this record? I'd really like to hear from you guys--what, exactly am I not getting here? ---------------- Thank you stranger for tellin' it like it is! I'll admit that I like a few of Dire Straits' songs, but I can also say that about nearly any pop or rock group. To my ears Dire Straits is a lot like REM musically, you can mix up all the cuts from all the albums they've done, dump 'em out, re-arrange them in any order, and you'll have the same album. Definitely into recycling musical ideas. Thanks again for your honesty Allan Songer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted May 31, 2005 Author Share Posted May 31, 2005 ---------------- On 5/31/2005 2:36:16 PM Jimmy James wrote: Thanks again for your honesty Allan Songer! ---------------- Are you implying that anyone who likes the album is a liar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Allan or Jimmy have you guys heard their self titled album Dire Straits? The guitar work in that is great. Lyrics are not to shabby either. The plain old redbook cd sounds incredible on heresys'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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