mdbrien Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Is there anyone that would recommend a new Jolida JD-100 CD player for the price of $900.00. If not, is there another player for around the same price, that would be better. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Hi Mark, I don't know the answer to your question as I'm wondering the same also. THAT said, I also don't know if the price you quote is for the stock unit or a modified unit. If it's bone stock, send me a PM and I'll (Monday) research who it was, but I had a dealer tell me he sells them for $765 which includes delivery (stock units). He suggested to me that he was probably the lowest cost provider of them on the internet. I don't have those notes here at home. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurs Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Get it stock and upgrade the tubes, don't go for any of the lower level mods. The JD100 is a heckuva player once you get the right tubes in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 THe one I was truly impressed with had different tubes I think but was stock otherwise. All of this super clock stuff for $ 400-600 in mods seems a bit extreme. -minor EMI reduction mods -basic power filtering A little DIY in these 2 areas is a more logical investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmjrt Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 ...so what are the right tubes for the jolida? I've been looking at it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurs Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 The best I heard in it were RCA Blackplates, but if you search audioasylum or audiogon, there are plenty of other recommendations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgeraci Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 ---------------- On 5/22/2005 11:23:21 PM Audio Flynn wrote: THe one I was truly impressed with had different tubes I think but was stock otherwise. All of this super clock stuff for $ 400-600 in mods seems a bit extreme. -minor EMI reduction mods -basic power filtering A little DIY in these 2 areas is a more logical investment. ---------------- Some of the basic level one mods do not involve super clocks. For example, Underwood's mod installs upgraded resistors, caps, diodes & output jacks, and adds a sound coat layer. I could hear a justified difference for these modfications over the stock model, and it was worth it to me - but a new stock player at around $750 is a fantastic deal. It depends on where one's system is at as to whether a mod would be worth the bang for the buck. My favorite tubes in the Jolida have been Mullard CV 4004s. Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperfectcircle25 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Ah! Super Tjoeb 4000/upsampled I chose this player over the Rega Planet 2000 and Jolida JD100. Very nice player for the price($1200 fully loaded) you would have to spend about $2000+ to really do much better. The Ah! Tjoeb uses the 6922 series tube in its output stage, and it upsamples to 24/192 using a very high quality upsampling board that is built by a Swiss company that makes components for some very high end stuff. I would describe the player as being very detailed but with just enough of the tube warmth so that its not bright, I think its the prefect balance of detail and punchyness vs smoothness and warmth. You wont be disapointed, just ake sure you use some nice tubes the player sounds kinda crappy with the stock JAN Philips 6922. Definitly try some Seimens 7308s or if your on a budget the Russian "rocket logo" 6h23, they really take the player to another level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperfectcircle25 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Just wanted to add that the Jolida does beet the Ah! tjoeb in build quality. Since the Ah! Tjoeb is built around the Maratz cd4000 the case is rather cheap, but its what inside that counts and I think the Ah! Tjoeb has a slight edge in sound quality and also offers an upsampling option which the Jolida does not. I believe the Jolida goes for $900 and the Ah! pricing is as follows Ah! Tjoeb 4000 $749 Ah! Super Tjoeb 4000 $899 (includes AC Direkt power cable, Tjoeb shoes isolation feet, Demat disk stabalizer) 24/192 upsampler board optional $349 (user installable at anytime) A fully loaded the Ah! Super Tjoeb 4000/upsampled would cost you $1249 but it includes an upgraded power cable, upgraded isolation feet, 24/192 upsampling and the Demat disk mat. So the loaded Ah! Super Tjoeb is more money, but if you added an upgraded power cable and isolation feet to the Jolidas price your about even and the Jolida doesnt have upsampling. So the Ah! Tjoeb may actually be a better deal for the price. Check out Upscaleaudio.com for more info on the Ah! Tjoeb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 ---------------- On 5/22/2005 11:23:21 PM Audio Flynn wrote: THe one I was truly impressed with had different tubes I think but was stock otherwise. All of this super clock stuff for $ 400-600 in mods seems a bit extreme. -minor EMI reduction mods -basic power filtering A little DIY in these 2 areas is a more logical investment. ---------------- The stock unit he heard with different tubes was mine. I replaced the stock tubes with a pair of 12AX7 RTF Cyro Tubes. They are ruggedized tubes from E. Germany. Very smooth allowing the unit to provide extremely nice detail in its reproduction of music. For me the tubes are very affordable at $ 69.95 per matched pair. As was said my Jolida CD is stock, so I can't comment on any added advantages for modifications. Can only say my stock unit exceeds my expectations, especially given I only paid $700.00 for it new. Wish you the best in your search. Wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsear Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I run Sylvania NOS (1966) tubes. They blossomed the sound of a JD 100 w/ the level 2 mod from Underwood. Matched pair around $50.00 from Upscale in So. Cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Oscarsear, Did you get a chance to make a comparison of stock vs. modified unit in your system? I would like to hear a couple of the modded units and stock one in my system to hear the differences. I have to know bang for buck before jumping in. Wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 just how do you "cryo" a tube ...without it imploding ...??? further .. what could be the benefits of "cryo'd" glass, as it's insides ain't gonna touch nothin' 'till the envelope implodes ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 ---------------- On 5/23/2005 4:54:27 PM bsafirebird1969 wrote: just how do you "cryo" a tube ...without it imploding ...??? further .. what could be the benefits of "cryo'd" glass, as it's insides ain't gonna touch nothin' 'till the envelope implodes ... ---------------- Wasn't the "Cryo" verbage that attracted me to the tube. It was this description: "Very low microphonics due to it's rugged construction. Not an overly warm sounding tube,very smooth, and detailed." That was the sonic characteristics I was looking for to mate with the Jolida CD. After many emails and a final guarantee for full refund, I ordered and have no regrets with the tubes. If you desire, the link below will take you to ATSI Advantage's page which has a definition of their Cyro Tube Process. I'm sure they would address any questions or criticisms you care to submit. http://tubeman.com/cat8_1.htm Wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 thanks for the link ... Hmmm ... leave's me quite a skeptic ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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