Bonzo Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I hate to ask but, any opinions on good, inexpensive, speaker cables for my Forte's? Short run from a 100 watt Yamaha receiver. I am currently using 12 gauge Acoustic Research cable with bananas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triode Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I'd go with Copper Wire. If it's a short run (less than 50 ft.) make sure it's at least 16 gauge. No connector is the best connector! Save your money for a Tube Amp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Why change the cable? It seems adequate. If you are intersted in experimenting, then I would spend the time and effort on tweaking 1) speaker placement and 2) room treatment. These will produce actual changes in the sound. The trick is to determine if the changes are improvements. Good Luck, -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Zip cord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 Hey Duke, I also have a pair of L-36's along with my Heresy's and Forte's. I know where there is a pair of JBL L200b studio masters for sale. They are in nice shape. The guy has Heil Air Motion Transformers, of ESS fame, on top of the 200's, hooked up to the B side of his cheap Sansui amp? He has some kind of resistor or cap. in the loop. The surprising thing is, it sounds pretty good??? The L200b's are nice but they do need help in the top end, IMHO. I too had Valencia's at one time which had much better highs. Put about 300 clean watts behind them and I may change my mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I'm using the Supra Classic 1.6 -- it's an affordable high quality tin over stranded copper. www.solen.ca/ you can find it under the accessories link. I also use the 14AWG Goertz, which seems to add a bit of sparkle to the treble. http://www.alphacore.com/shop/enter.html To change up the signature a little you have to change either the cable geometry or material. Nothing jaw dropping, but it's there. I mostly like these cables because they are high quality, reasonably priced, and don't oxidize and turn green six months after you buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviserated Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 ---------------- On 8/11/2005 5:49:54 AM DeanG wrote: I mostly like these cables because they are high quality, reasonably priced, and don't oxidize and turn green six months after you buy them. ---------------- This would be the only reason to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 HERE WE GO AGAIN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 ---------------- On 8/11/2005 12:59:25 PM Allan Songer wrote: HERE WE GO AGAIN!! ---------------- Allan...... YEP! Just keep what you have. Any wire over 14ga and of a good quality copper and you will not hear any difference. Any difference said to be heard, is in the head of the wire buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 ---------------- On 8/11/2005 5:49:54 AM DeanG wrote: I'm using the Supra Classic 1.6 -- it's an affordable high quality tin over stranded copper. www.solen.ca/ you can find it under the accessories link. I also use the 14AWG Goertz, which seems to add a bit of sparkle to the treble. http://www.alphacore.com/shop/enter.html To change up the signature a little you have to change either the cable geometry or material. Nothing jaw dropping, but it's there. I mostly like these cables because they are high quality, reasonably priced, and don't oxidize and turn green six months after you buy them. ---------------- Holy COW! Is this for real?! Dean really said this?? DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I too have wire upgraded from zip cord--it even has fancy gold mini-spades on the ends to fit my old McIntosh amps and Cornwalls!! It's called Nordost Blue Heaven and I got a KILLER deal on it a few years back. It replaced some bottom of the lime Audioquest stuff with bare tinned wire ends. It LOOKS much better--can't say it really sounds any better. Now if you want to talk about INTERCONNECTS, I can absolutely hear differences when changing them out. Speaker wire is another story . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 What Allan said - I haven't really put alot of money into speaker cables, but I found the same thing as Allan to be true for interconnects. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 ---------------- On 8/10/2005 11:01:58 PM Bonzo wrote: Hey Duke, I also have a pair of L-36's ---------------- what a Great, balanced speaker they are .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 I am using Straightwire inter-connects which seem to work very well. The biggest improvement is my Entech 2.3 DAC hooked to my Sony 300 disc mega-changer. Much more articulate and better sepaaration of vocals and instruments. Tightened the bass up too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviserated Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 ---------------- On 8/11/2005 5:49:54 AM DeanG wrote: I'm using the Supra Classic 1.6 -- it's an affordable high quality tin over stranded copper. www.solen.ca/ you can find it under the accessories link. I also use the 14AWG Goertz, which seems to add a bit of sparkle to the treble. http://www.alphacore.com/shop/enter.html To change up the signature a little you have to change either the cable geometry or material. Nothing jaw dropping, but it's there. I mostly like these cables because they are high quality, reasonably priced, and don't oxidize and turn green six months after you buy them. ---------------- Not only does Dean build crossovers, he sells cables now. Send $5.00 for Deans 2005 catalog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 What you've got is PERFECT! AR is nice and flexible, multistrand copper. I personally like to change things around and hate shorts caused by a stray wire, so I banana everything. If you need more wire, go to home center. I bought 250' of nice 16 ga copper for $40. The music sounds like music. That's enough for me. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I can hear a difference between silver, straight copper, and tinned copper. I can't hear a difference between my 14 AWG Radio Shack cable and my $300 Kimber 8TC's, however, I can hear a difference between the Goertz and Kimber. So, I deduced that it takes either a radical change in the geometry of the cable, or the material. I hear small differences with cymbals and the sound of the snare -- but I couldn't tell you which is "right" or "better". It really doesn't amount to a hill of beans of difference, and I think the important thing is to stay away from stuff prone to oxidation. The Goertz and Supra wire are good choices here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Yep! Tom got it in the 2nd response! Or heck, you had it before posting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 With enough to share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviserated Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I do believe carbon resister type cables will ease brightness some. ASL recommends them if you have bright sounding speakers and no tone controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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