codhead Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 "At least Codhead had some experience with a Juicy product before he posted his thoughts. THAT is useful." Kev, Think you have me confused with an adjacent post. I was just trying to interject a little humor. I have ***no experience*** with Juicy products, so I can't comment on them one way or another. As an engineer, I can only wish Mark and Craig the best of luck with their products. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to design, source, prototype, and manufacture equipment. I think the Klipsch folks are pretty cool for allowing them to market to forum members, as I doubt if they currently have the resources for a proper ad campaign. Yeah, the seemingly endless accolades can be frustrating to wade through at times. But they're also doing their part to keep a dying industry alive - and from that we all benefit. I still remember the excitement associated with my first decent piece of tube gear, and if this forum existed at the time, I'm sure my comments would have annoyed someone. It's a lot easier to deal with when you keep it in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Sorry![:$] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Interesting thread - but we are comparing apples and oranges here. Almost invariably new equipment will not look like good value for money next to 2nd hand - which I assume is how Neo bought his. For example: A brand new Klipsch Horn is excellent value for money in comparison to any other high end speaker out there, new. Next to a 2nd hand unit, at often less than a 1/3rd of the price it is not such good value. At $2-3000 Mark's preamp looks good value against some of its competition which retails for upto $10,000 - although I have not heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASRONANDTRISH Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Okay, I'm new here but heres my 2 cents. We are all adults here, with the exception of a couple young ones who have remained silent. BRAVO!! The very nature of a forum suggests that people with different OPINIONS will chime in. Beating on someone who's opinion differs from you show a definite lack in character IMHO. Who is to say that one person is correct and I or anyone else am wrong? My favorite color is blue. Am I wrong? People will hear different nuances in music,Ive been to so many concerts, a transistor radio is state of the art...TO ME. Can you have a different opinion? Absolutely. Should you bash me for it? NEVER! I've noticed a couple of old timers here have not posted lately, where do you suppose they have gone? I NEED everyone heres opinion, I'm new at this, but I've noticed questions go unanswered because some get caught up in personal attacks. I know I won't be missed but I also know if it doesn't stop I'll be looking for a new place to call home, as I think some other may have already, and thats a shame, there are not too many nut like us out there, I need a home!! Flame on!! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 My favorite color is blue. Am I wrong? I'm afraid so. Your actual favorite color is green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASRONANDTRISH Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 WOW all these years I was missing the color green, can you provide pictures to prove the existence of the color green? I just want to make an informed decision before giving my hard earned money to purchase a new favorite color. I'm not sure green is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Green is too bright. Everyone agrees that your favorite color should be brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Naaa Stick with Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASRONANDTRISH Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 See!! You're all just throwing out opinions with no data to back it up. I'll go with white. Wait, is white a color or the absence of color? More research is needed. Can someone state their experiences with white or perhaps another color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olorin Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 It depends on your color model. In an additive model white is all colors, but then the color of white varies with color temperature. In an additive model white is the absence of tinting agents, but white will then vary with the color of the substrate and the light source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I have no Data but my belief is white is a color. Clear would be no color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I have no Data but my belief is white is a color. Clear would be no color. Black is beautiful, baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I have no Data but my belief is white is a color. Clear would be no color. This makes sense. White officially became a color in 1949, when it was added to Crayola Crayons. http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0872797.html Clear cannot be found in a box of Crayola Crayons, which is strong contributing evidence that it is not a color. (It is not a case of it being there and you just cannot see it, because you'd still be able to see the wrapper enclosing the crayon.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASRONANDTRISH Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I[] GIVE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olorin Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Clear is not just the absence of color -- it is the absence of color and the absence of reflectance. [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 For the record, I never said any members products were bad, nor have I ever said the people who make them were bad or had any negitive traits. What I DID say was that I was tired of hearing about the products. I have some good older gear (not the best by any means) and I have auditioned some of the amps mentioned and I was not "blown away" by them. Does this mean they are bad? NO, is my gear superior? NO On the whole I ranked them about the same. This got the ire up of those who have spent money with the suppliers from the board. All I said, and my point was, ENOUGH already, there are more amps in circulation than those who everyone was raving about. I didn't want new members to the board and to higher end audio, to think that the only equipment worth having was that which was sold by our board members. EDIT: ANOTHER COMMENT, if there had been 18 months of "moondogs are the best" I would be saying the same thing[] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 "I didn't want new members to the board and to higher end audio, to think that the only equipment worth having was that which was sold by our board members." Most of us have been through a lot of gear, and many of us have found the best sound coming from things built by those who know and understand what works best with these horns. I'm sure anyone coming to this forum, or new to audio fully realizes that there are other things out there worth having. So, tell me quick -- how many choke loaded, fixed bias, tube rectified push-pull monoblocks are out there? How about anywhere near the price NOSvalves builds them for? How about tube rectified full function preamps and linestages with more power supply filtering than most amps have. Where do you go if you want a new network or are having a problem with one? How about a bad driver? Want a new kick *** horn that will actually fit without modding half the speaker? I think it's great that people are happy with the goods and services offered through this forum, and every thread or post is simply the testimony of a satisfied customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 "You can post whatever you want but your own words here led me to believe you posted this before talking to Mark, if I am wrong I apologize, I am not speaking for you, or any other thing, own what you write dude. He either new the deal before you posted this or he didnt. dont fry me cause you F$%ked up." i see you are one of those that likes to stick there nose in on a subject and after it gets cut off you take offense and answer with ignorance and profanity. and you have the nerve to try to tell others to censor what they write. well fella no one was trying to fry you just returning your comments if you dont like to have rebutal to your comments and can only answer with profanity i suggest you keep your nose in your oun business or be man enough to rebut what is said without profanity that is a condition of this forum that it be kept clean Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 mark i am very happy with the resolution to the situation, i had no intentions of slamming you here or trying to besmerch your name or gear, you have shown that you are an honerable person and i beleive completely this was a type of oversite i could have spoke with you earlier and i did try to structure a deal with you, but at that time i felt i would just go to deep into a pre at the prices we had discussed i apolagize if you feel i slighted you in any way. Joe` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASRONANDTRISH Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Guess it was too much to hope for. crazytubepower , if you're really 15, you're way ahead of most of the "adults" on this forum. Goodbye and God bless, alot of you will need it. Ron R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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