ranjith Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 What're the pros and cons of a bi-wired speaker? Also is there a big difference in using a bi-wired speaker cable on a speaker thats biwired as opposed to doing it the normal way? Just some newbie questions to advance on the learning curve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tofu Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 i never heard a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Are you talking about bi-wiring where you have an active crossover and seperate amplification for the HF and LF sections? That's the only kind that I would claim makes an audible improvement, but costs lots of money and it is easier to destroy the sound than to make it better (due to user error). As far as running two wires to the same amplifier or fool's biamping....it's a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Doc, I think you may only encourage the (bi-wiring) nonsense by suggesting some connection to legitimate bi-amping![] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Perhaps I should start selling roadmaps for electrons....I'm sure those smart little boogers will have no problems reading it [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 ROTFLMAO Thanks Dr Who I just spit soda all over my monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheis Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Pros - None Cons - Money wasted on unnecessary cables James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I bi-wired a pair of LaScala and it made a worthwhile improvement in the sound (and it only cost about $5). A friend bi-wired his pair of Belle and didn't like the way the sound changed (more prominent mids and highs). Whether or not you can hear a difference is something you would have to try and see. It makes more of a difference in the three-way models than in the newer two-way models. Because of the very high impedance of the mid and HF sections (models with autoformers), you only need 18~20ga wire for a typical run. I use Teflon (available online for about $0.10 a foot), so $5 will buy enough for a 25ft total length twisted pair. No need to spend big $$$ for Kimber and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdridq Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 No diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Try it.......see what YOU think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Bi-WIRE......... NO possible way to improve sound quality, only spend more money on wire. Bi-AMP..........Able to adjust power to the LF and M/HF sections thus changing the way it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Do not waste you time and money on bi-wire it is nothing but markleting hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranjith Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Thanks for all your input, I'll stay away from bi-wire for cost purposes. But, I've got more newbie questions. How is a normal speaker wire different from a twisted pair? what're the pros and cons to a twisted pair. Also what else do I have to keep in mind while buying speaker wire, material, strands count and such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picky Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Perhaps I should start selling roadmaps for electrons....I'm sure those smart little boogers will have no problems reading it [] You, Sir, are wise beyond your years! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Here, I will try to make it simple so that we don't fill up your mind with so much info that your head explodes![] Think 14 or 12 guage, depending upon the run length. (Or smaller if you need them for jumper cables) http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?DID=7&WebPage_ID=3&Start=1&searchorderby=3&Manufacturer=195&CATID=56&ObjectGroup_ID=374&sm=1&so=2&raid=53&rak=sound_king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranjith Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Thanks a lot dragonfyr! That surely helped a lot, I shall have some on the way shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 please specify your system: # of channels, amps, subs, room size, music and movie preferences, percent of movie versus music listening, loudness, etc[H] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I don't hold with the notion of bi-wiring and have never tried it. But one thing that gives me pause is that DJK thinks it can make a difference and I've never heard any nonsense coming from him. A thousand other fellas could say bi-wiring was good and I'd blow them off but with DJK I gotta stop and think. I also know another VERY astute old horny who thinks bi-wiring is beneficial even though he, a retired EE, can't explain why it should be so. So I withhold judgment on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhead Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Well, if strong opinions backed up by nothing but strong belief could settle an issue, I suppose you could consider this one settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 There are ways that a bi-wire can help. More copper lowers resistance which is a minor help. Also, different amplification on the high frequency side may help. The bottom line is not to spend big bucks to try it out. Zip cord in 12 awg and good banana plugs should not break the bank. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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