Which set of Cornwalls?

[el jopez]

Ok board, I have a question and I'm not sure if it has been posted before.

As we all know, Klipsch is re-releasing the Cornwall in a 3rd

reincarnation. Klipsch has yet to release pricing to my knowledge

for a set. My question to you seasoned vets, and to those

especially who went to the last Klipsch Pilgrimage, should I purchase a

set of Cornwall II's or wait for the 3rd generation? Is there

that much of a difference to hold out, or should I indulge in the

Heritage series now?

I am pleased with my RF 35s, however, from what I read and hear, the jump

between the two will be massive, and (not meaning to start a flame war)

more loyal to the Klipsch sound.

Advice?

Joe

[Duke Spinner]

I seriously doubt the change will be "Massive"

i'd say buy the CW 2's, and feel good about your choice

the CW 2 is a Great improvement over the first gen.

buy a new X-over quick

[Jeff Matthews]

My thought is about $$$. Can't you pick up CWII's for about $700 in good condition? I heard something like the CWIII's will be around $3,000, but you know rumors... In any case, I seriously doubt the 3's will be 4 times.... 3 times.... even 2 times.... the 2's or 1's in terms of real value for the $$$$.

[travisc]

wait a minute

what are the differences between the originals and the II's

I know that the drivers are mounted to the motorboard differently, but are there any other cab differences?

[Duke Spinner]

diff. Mid 'n tweet, Travis

think, " Tractrix "

[travisc]

they didnt start doing that until the eighties though. right? The Cornwall II has been around since the early seventies.

which tweeter did they go to the k-79?

that makes it more like a corn 2.5

[Cal Blacksmith]

CW I

Specifications

FREQUENCY RESPONSE:

38Hz-20kHz±5dB

POWER HANDLING:

105 watts maximum continuous (1000 watts peak)

SENSITIVITY:

98.5dB @ 1watt/1meter

NOMINAL IMPEDANCE:

8 ohms

TWEETER:

K-77-M 1" (2.54cm) Phenolic diaphragm compression driver

HIGH FREQUENCY HORN:

90°x40° Exponential Horn

MIDRANGE:

K-55-V 2" (5.08cm) Phenolic diaphragm compression driver

MID FREQUENCY HORN:

90°x40° Exponential Horn

WOOFER:

K-33 15" (38.1cm) Fiber-composite cone

ENCLOSURE MATERIAL:

Birch Plywood or Veneered Lumbercore

ENCLOSURE TYPE:

Bass reflex via front-mounted port

DIMENSIONS:

35.75" x 25.5" x 15.5"

WEIGHT:

108 lbs.

FINISHES:

Walnut, Rose, Teak Oil, Oak, Cherry Lacquer, Natural, Mahogany, Maple, Raw, Black Birch

BUILT FROM:

1959

BUILT UNTIL:

1985

CW II

Specifications

FREQUENCY RESPONSE:

38Hz-20kHz±3dB

POWER HANDLING:

100 watts maximum continuous (1000 watts peak)

SENSITIVITY:

101dB @ 1watt/1meter

NOMINAL IMPEDANCE:

8 ohms

TWEETER:

K-79-K 1" (2.54cm) Polymer diaphragm compression driver

HIGH FREQUENCY HORN:

90°x40° Exponential Horn

MIDRANGE:

K-57-K 1.5" (3.81cm) Phenolic diaphragm compression driver

MID FREQUENCY HORN:

90°x40° Exponential Horn

WOOFER:

K-34-E 15" (38.1cm) Fiber-composite cone

ENCLOSURE MATERIAL:

Medium density fiberboard construction (MDF)

ENCLOSURE TYPE:

Bass reflex via front-mounted port

DIMENSIONS:

35.75" (90.8cm) x 25.25" (64.1cm) x 15.5" (39.4cm)

WEIGHT:

90 lbs. (40.9kg)

FINISHES:

Raw Birch, Walnut Oil, Walnut Lacquer, Oak Oil, Oak Lacquer, Finished Black

BUILT FROM:

1985

BUILT UNTIL:

1990

[travisc]

thanks Wayne I was too lazy to do that myself.

So where does this discrepency of the old Cornwall II's with either the II's hand written in red marker or with the labels that have Cornwall II fit into this? They are labeled Cornwall II, very strange. Was it because of the crossover change from type B to B-1?

[Frzninvt]

Wayne, there was two era's for the Cornwall II's. The original II's were verticals and the designation was used on the label and sometimes not.

The reworked Cornwall II from 1985 on, had a different top end that did sound better and extended up to 20Khz. The K-57K and K-79K was a good combination, the K-34E is identical to the K-33E specification wise but the cardboard gasket on it is designed to be top mounted (flush) so it is thinner and has a finished look to it.

The crossover network in the 1985 and on CII is a real piece of work, that would be the first thing I replace, then I would add some egg crate foam to the non opposing sides of the internal cabinet as the CII has no internal dampening.

[colterphoto1]

1.5's might be K33, K57 (K601 plastic horn + K52 driver) with B2 and K77 as a set of mine were.

Basically a CWII but didn't get the K79 tweeter or the K34 woofer.

I'm sure there's other permutations.

Anyone have a CW with K55/K600 and a K79 tweeter?

The new one is a K107 tweeter, and it's a tractrix

Michael

[Seadog]

diff. Mid 'n tweet, Travis

think, " Tractrix "

The CWII does not use Tractix horns, but it is a great sounding speaker. The K-79 is a nice tweeter, and the squawker will not have any 9KHz issues.

[travisc]

love learning all the info guys. Committed to memory.

one question about the Cornwall II designation on the older styles. Was this only used when the cabinet wasnt accesable from the 12 screws on the rear. Anyone know why they got a two designation. Seems like they went back and forth for years. There must have been a reason.

my 73 verts are designated Cornwall and not Cornwall II. I am sure I have seen pics of Corns from the 60's with the II designation.

[el jopez]

It will be commonly agreed that for a better musical experience, to go with Corns over 35's, right?

Joe

"a little more reassurance here people"

[colterphoto1]

It will be commonly agreed that for a better musical experience, to go with Corns over 35's, right?

Joe

"a little more reassurance here people"

uh, yeah! I only have the I's. Can't comment on the II's.

I'm looking at a K79, nice smooth exponential, definitely not a Tractrix, just to clarify.

[el jopez]

SOLD!

I will enjoy these college years well, for this will be the only time I get to build my sound system.

You guys are going to make me go broke.

Joe

"next will be K Horns"

[colterphoto1]

you mean you BOUGHT EM? Good job! Which ones? post photos! Very cool. This is the time in your life to just go crazy and get whatever you want. Party down dude!

Michael

[colterphoto1]

now I gotta look up Monster Island and see where in the world you are. This Forum is soooo coool!

[Seadog]

SOLD!

I will enjoy these college years well, for this will be the only time I get to build my sound system.

You guys are going to make me go broke.

Joe

"next will be K Horns"

Congratulations! Of course, once you are sucked into the Heritage sound, there is no escape. []

[mowntnbkr]

So............. What about crossovers. Are they vastly different between the I's and II's? My I's will be here this weekend. Are the II's that much better that I should be on the lookout for k-57k's and K-79's. Also what crossovers are prefered.

[customsteve01]

Colter,

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What a cool place to live huh?????[][]


Steve