Daddy Dee Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Yes, the earlier cornwalls crossed at 600hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 OK, I was mistaken about the new Cornwall crossing at 800hz. Specs are below. Now I'm not sure that I trust my recollection from the Cornwall I heard in Hope back in September. I also thought that it had a KPT*** something woofer in it as well. Perhaps Klipsch had not settled on the final specs at that point. Specifications FREQUENCY RESPONSE:34Hz - 20 kHz ±3db POWER HANDLING:100w max continuous (400 w peak) SENSITIVITY:103 db @ 1watt/1meter MAXIMUM ACOUSTIC OUTPUT:121 db NOMINAL IMPEDANCE:8 ohms CROSSOVER FREQUENCY:HF: 5000Hz LF: 700Hz TWEETER:K-107-TI (2.54cm) Titanium diaphragm compression driver HIGH FREQUENCY HORN:K-79-T Tractrix MIDRANGE:K-53-TI 1.75" (4.45 cm) Titanium diaphragm compression driver MID FREQUENCY HORN:K-701 Exponential WOOFER:K-33-E 15" (38.1cm) Fiber composite cone ENCLOSURE MATERIAL:MDF ENCLOSURE TYPE:Bass reflex via front slot ports DIMENSIONS:35.75" H (90.81cm) x 25.31" W (64.29cm) x 15.5" D (39.37cm) WEIGHT:98 lbs FINISHES:Walnut Lacquer, Cherry Lacquer, Black Lacquer BUILT FROM:2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbajner Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I know I said this in some other thread, if anyone buys a set of these, please report back to this forum. I would like to hear them but no local dealer in the Chicago area is ever going to have a pair in as a demo. Klipsch should work with selected dealers to loan them a pair for this purpose. otherwise, how does one go about purchasing them. on faith I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I am amazed that Klipsch chose to use the K33e which I think is an outstanding driver. Now put this with the K701. Cornwall 3? Lots of people thought this speaker sounded unbelieveable when auditioned. Must have a serious network upgrade to make that much difference. Let me say this. Al is really onto something with the Trachorn 600. This horn replacement in the old Cornwall with Bob's new tweeter and the ALK B will be very hard to beat. That would make it very hard for me to justify the price of the Cornwall 3. However, the c3's woofer was moved up vertical about 6 inches and the port was shortened. That could improve the bass. The shortening of the port in my opinion will provide lower bass when plotted on my WinISD software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Jw, I just heard from Martinelli. He is working on the Trachorn 600 now. Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiophile.1963 Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 I see that I will remain with my opening curiosity about La Scala II! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 With the identical drivers, horns, networks, internal dimensions, and specs, won't the LS II sound the same as the latest discontinued LS (2005) until driven up to a level where the thicker bass bin walls come into play? What level is this? Pauln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I agree that it would take some pretty careful listening with specifically selected musical material to discern a sonic difference between the two. IMO, the major significance of the change is in making it match the cosmetics of the new Khorn, which it does nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 No there is a noticeable difference in the bass. At Indy they definitely had a more pronounced bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Is Klipsch using a different woofer than the K33 in the new LaScala? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 No but they revoiced it, at least that is what they told us at Indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I use a sub to enhance my LS bass. MDF - No thanks $1500 upgrade for fancy wood - No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 MDF has a better resonance characteristic than plywood and only the bass bin shell is MDF, I believe the dog house is still plywood. If I were to choose between last years and these I'd take these hands down. IMO they hit a home run with these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 how long do i have to wait for a used pair ...??? 20 years ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Although I agree that the new Lascala sounded very good at Indy last summer I myself would have to spend some time up close and personal with them to actually say the Bass is all that much better especially at rerasonable levels in a normal size room. I mean 95% of what we listened to was movies so it really didn't give a good reference point IMHO. I was more struck by the awesome improvement in appereance then anything else. The new look makes them much easier for many to sneak into there livingroom without ending up in the dog house. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiophile.1963 Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 I hope that sooner or later one of the first lucky buyers of the new La Scala II could describe this "new" sound and send us pictures of these fantastic and unknow loudspeakers! Beppe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbsl Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I paid $3500 for my 2004 La Scalas and could not afford the LS 2 so I timed it right. I have not seen the new ones in person but I'm not really impressed by the new look but I guess they do match the KHorns. To pay $2000 more the bass had better be dramaticly improved almost on level with a KHorn and I really doubt that. I say just save another $2000 grand and get the KHorns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 No but they revoiced it, at least that is what they told us at Indy. What exactly did they mean by "revoiced it"? Sounds fishy to me... Someone wanted to see technical info in this thead, let's start with what was meant by "revoiced it". So how long long til we see posts claiming that the LaScala II's got no bass? I just received a new cartrige, (that makes four, now) so I'm off to listen to my test record (Sting - the Police - Synchronicity 2nd side with all that bass). Pauln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 No but they revoiced it, at least that is what they told us at Indy. What exactly did they mean by "revoiced it"? Sounds fishy to me... I assumed it meant they redesigned the crossover... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Believe it or not, good speaker manufacturers realize that no design is perfect and the process of voicing is one of making the distortions sound better. There are a few ways to do it - some crossover work and some minor adjustments with the drivers. Voicing also takes into account the kind of amplification and source material the target market will be using and accounting for common flaws in those areas too. And of course voicing also involves trying to as best as possible timbre match across the same lineup (ie, with the khorn and heresy). I think the new lascala2 has more bass that is also cleaner, but I don't think it went as low either....though we didn't get to hear them tucked into corners. I also had the impression that they made the woofer a notch louder relative to the other drivers too...but what I remember best is that I was seconds away from leaving the room during the demo - it was incredibly fatiguing. Though everything in that room sounded fatiguing to me. But you can read all about that in the pilgrimage threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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