KHorns in a Tiny Room

[3Fates]

I was not expecting this but KHorns came into my life recently. My dedicated listening room is rather small - 16 ft x10 ft. I have always placed my speakers on the short wall with spacing roughly 5 feet apart. I sit about 8 feet away. I know its not ideal but it's all I have to work with.

Presently, the KHorns are in the corners of the short wall. I was thinking of re-arranging and placing the KHorns on the 16 ft wall corners and placing my listening chair against the opposite wall. This places my ears 7-8 feet away. Does this sound like it might work? I can do whatever I want with room tweats. Thanks in advance.

[cjgeraci]

Don't fret, Khorns are room dependent but don't worry about the size of your room. Just enjoy them. I am fond of saying "it is what it is....."

That being said, move 'em to that long wall. You will not regret it. Mine are 22 feet apart, and it is heaven.

Carl.

[seti]

Sure a bigger room is optimal but I have heard great sounds from Khorns in very very small rooms.

[DrWho]

One of the best rooms I've heard khorns in was about your size with the listening position right up against the rear wall. Talk about great low frequency extension (due to the pressure zone created by the rear wall).

[maxg]

You are going to have to try it to see. Theoretically it should be better on the long wall - but that's theory and practice is what your ears tell you after you have put your back out moving them.....[]

[psg]

In my previous house, I had them in a 11x30 foot room, using 18 feet of that long wall for the Klipschorns (with a false corner). I sat in the crosshairs of the speakers on a couch against the back wall. The speakers disappeared and the imaging was the best I have had them sound. Go figure.

[steve]

long wall, long wall, long wall. KHorn manual says speakers should be set up so that ratio of the distance between the speakers and the distance from the listening area is 1 x .618. If your room is 16 x 10, (192 inches by 120 inches) you've missed it by less than 2 inches!! (192 x .618 = 118.66) Ideal!

Steve

[colterphoto1]

if you can get back against the other long wall you'll be better off. .7-.8x the Khorn spacing is the normal distance from the front wall. That ideally would be 12'

[IndyKlipschFan]

colterphoto1 to the rescue..

Good advice.. the longer wall the better, in your situation...

[Groomlakearea51]

if you can get back against the other long wall you'll be better off. .7-.8x the Khorn spacing is the normal distance from the front wall. That ideally would be 12'

Colterphoto is correct; He auditioned the "wall of voodoo" and it's a "small room", maybe 16 x 12, and they sound fine.

[IndyKlipschFan]

Yes, on the long wall they do...

[kaiser SET say]

Did somebody mention K Horn sound in a small room[]

[Groomlakearea51]

And the "teeny tiny room" sorta like a 12' x 6' room in the barracks where I first put my BB's before after I moved out of my apartment just before I came back to the US? Talk about "near field".......[H]

[colterphoto1]

GLA51- your son sure has a nice sweet spot right in front of his video arcade for those KCBB's now! Lucky kid!

[colterphoto1]

Steve, thanks for posting that number. My experience with many users is .7- .8. Not exactly the mathematical sweet spot, but where most of us who say they have 'great imaging and soundstage' sit.

[steve]

Michael

yeah, just going by what the manual says..and actually, in my experience, it's pretty close. But as we all know, the KHorn sounds great when you're anywhere in the ballpark!

Regards,

Steve

[Groomlakearea51]

GLA51- your son sure has a nice sweet spot right in front of his video arcade for those KCBB's now! Lucky kid!

CP1 - Lil' Michael's room certainly qualifies for the "Really Teeny Tiny Room with K-horns". It's 12' x 10', and you've seen the "clutter". But we've got at least 40" on each K-horn side, so it's fine for his "near field" experience with SOCOM-3 or whatever evil aliens, bad guys, galactic storm troopers, etc., with whom he's doing battle. Interestingly, he only plays that stuf for about an hour, then it's off to bike riding, or building the Lego stuff. He was really impressed when "Mr. Michael, the Klipsch Man" told him that he was probably the youngest owner of a pair of Klipschorns!!!

[paully]

ooh! ooh! Look at the pretty McInstoshs'! Very nice.

[3Fates]

Thanks for all the replies so far. I have re-arranged the room so the KHorns are along the long wall. It has been a week so far and it is definitely better. Not the ultimate speaker but certainly extraordinary in many ways. I feel blessed.

This is my 3rd pair of Klipsch with the first being Forte II (best speakers anywhere under $500 IMO) and a pair of Cornwalls in my living room mated with a Fisher 300-B tube receiver.

[A bit of a confesssion, the KHorns were bought as a temporary replacement in main listening room while my Apogee Scintillas were being restored. I am using a McIntosh MC-240 tube amplifier along with a Supratek preamp. Front-end is all analog.]

For some reason, I spent the last week listening to pre-recorded reel-to-reel tapes mainly as the souce in the system. Needless to say, the sound was very big. Some of the tape highlights included an RCA Living Stereo of Chopins Piano Concerto, Beatles Abbey Road, Emerson, Lake and Palmer's 1st Lp and a few Barlay-Crocker Classical tapes as well. Boy, I wished they never dropped that format.

Has anyone experimented with raising their listening chair? I was thinking of somehow getting my ears in line with the horns.

[kaiser SET say]

ooh! ooh! Look at the pretty McInstoshs'! Very nice.

Those are/were Coytee's Paully, had the T.DeWick treatment and sounded very nice on Me Loves recently upgraded (Crites) K-Horns[]