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Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing


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Wall Of Voodoo: Mexican Radio &.....WOV fav....Ring Of Fire !!! Oh man. My girlfriend and I were just listening to both of these songs in the car earlier.

You do know Ring is an old J.Cash hit.....right....cool!

Two different tempos, some fine music! Recommended for Klipsch speaker systems!

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oldbuckster that's Generation X. XTC was/is? Andy Partridge's band that sound nothing like "traditional" punk. XTC had a pretty big radio/alternative hit in the 80's titled Dear God that's been in movies and everything. Andy is very well respected as a top notch lyricist and would be more for Beatles/power-pop fans. They did a side band called The Dukes Of Stratosphear that is a throwback to the psych/garage sound of the mid to late 60's that is fantastic and is highly recommended.

I'm telling you guys that the Rhino box set titled No Thanks! The '70's Punk Rebellion is an absolute must if you're interested in a crash course in this music. It is very varied and not just filled with Sex Pistols clones.

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Disc One

"Blitzkrieg Bop" - Ramones

"White Riot" - The Clash

"Heart Of The City" - Nick Lowe

"Boredom" - Buzzcocks featuring Howard Devoto

"(I'm) Stranded" - The Saints

"Neat Neat Neat" - The Damned

"In The City" - The Jam

"Final Solution" - Pere Ubu

"Roadrunner" - The Modern Lovers

"Little Johnny Jewel" - Television

"One Chord Wonders" - The Adverts

"Born To Lose" - The Heartbreakers

"Search and Destroy" - Iggy & The Stooges

"Let Me Dream If I Want To (Amphetamine Blues)" - Mink DeVille

"Oh Bondage Up Yours!" - X-Ray Spex

"1 2 X U" - Wire

"Blank Generation" - Richard Hell & The Voidoids

"(Get A) Grip (On Yourself)" - The Stranglers

"Cherry Bomb" - The Runaways

"Personality Crisis" - New York Dolls

"Teenage Depression" - Eddie & The Hot Rods

"Two Tub Man" - The Dictators

"Hey Joe (Version)" - Patti Smith

"Your Generation" - Generation X

Disc Two

"Lust For Life" - Iggy Pop

"Gary Gilmore's Eyes" - The Adverts

"Saturday Night In The City Of The Dead" - Ultravox

"What Do I Get?" - Buzzcocks

"X Offender" - Blondie

"Lookin' After No. 1" - The Boomtown Rats

"Don't Dictate" - Penetration

"Bingo Master" - The Fall

"Free Money" - Patti Smith

"The Modern World" - The Jam

"Chinese Rocks" - The Heartbreakers

"New Rose" - The Damned

"Ambition" - Subway Sect

"See No Evil" - Television

"Suspect Device" - Stiff Little Fingers

"Mannequin" - Wire

"Baby Baby" - The Vibrators

"Love Comes In Spurts" - Richard Hell & The Voidoids

"First Time" - The Boys

"Sonic Reducer" - Dead Boys

"Shot By Both Sides" - Magazine

"Mystery Dance" - Elvis Costello

"Trash" - New York Dolls

"The Day The World Turned Day-Glo" - X-Ray Spex

"Do Anything You Wanna Do" - Eddie & The Hot Rods

Disc Three

"Ready Steady Go" - Generation X

"Teenage Kicks" - The Undertones

"Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll" - Ian Dury

"Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've?)" - Buzzcocks

"Rocket U.S.A." - Suicide

"Mongoloid" - Devo

"Homicide" - 999

"Mr. Big" - The Dils

"Warsaw" - Joy Division

"Where Were You?" - The Mekons

"Lexicon Devil" - The Germs

"(My Baby Does) Good Sculptures" - The Rezillos

"The Wait - The Pretenders

"We Got The Neutron Bomb" - The Weirdos

"Pablo Picasso" - The Modern Lovers

"Action Time Vision" - Alternative TV

"2-4-6-8 Motorway" - Tom Robinson Band

"We Are The One" - The Avengers

"Borstal Breakout" - Sham 69

"Wasted" - Black Flag

"Sheena Is a Punk Rocker" - Ramones

"I Love Livin In The City" - Fear

"She's So Modern" - The Boomtown Rats

"Ghosts Of Princes In Towers" - Rich Kids

"We're Desperate" - X

"You Drive Me Ape (You Big Gorilla)" - The Dickies

"Dancing The Night Away" - The Motors

Disc Four

"Hong Kong Garden" - Siouxsie & The Banshees

"Hanging on the Telephone" - Blondie

"Top Of The Pops" - The Rezillos

"Adult Books" - X

"The Sound Of The Suburbs" - The Members

"California Über Alles" - Dead Kennedys

"Another Girl, Another Planet" - The Only Ones

"(I Want To Be An) Anglepoise Lamp" - The Soft Boys

"Radio, Radio" - Elvis Costello & The Attractions

"Typical Girls" - The Slits

"Human Fly" - The Cramps

"Psycho Killer" - Talking Heads

"Babylon's Burning" - The Ruts

"If The Kids Are United" - Sham 69

"Alternative Ulster" - Stiff Little Fingers

"Boy's Don't Cry" - The Cure

"She Is Beyond Good And Evil" - The Pop Group

"Is She Really Going Out With Him?" - Joe Jackson

"Get Over You" - The Undertones

"Love Like Anthrax" - Gang Of Four

"Peaches" - The Stranglers

"Into the Valley" - The Skids

"You Can't Put Your Arms Round A Memory" - Johnny Thunders

"Love Will Tear Us Apart" - Joy Division

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Synthfreek said: "... not just filled with Sex Pistols clones."

I'm of the opinion that ALL punk bands were Sex Pistols clones. In fact, aside from the Sex Pistols, very few bands listed in this thread would really qualify as 'PUNK' in my book. Elvis Costello, Talking Heads, Oingo Boingo/Danny Elfman and Pretenders were never Punk - they showered too much and Bowie and New York Dolls were doing 'GLAM' in the '70's. The Clash was a punk band but some would consider them too political... punks were more nihilistic and just wanted to piss people off. Bad Religion, Dead Kennedy's, Black Flag, Buzzcocks, Misfits and maybe even Social Distortion might qualify in my book.

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I agree that the term "punk" is often used as a very broad and general term. I also agree that the Sex Pistols and The Ramones should be credited with laying down the foundation of the punk "sound". But to me Television is a punk band even though they sound nothing like the Pistols or most British punk. Unless you're talking to someone who's really in the know and you describe Television as "you know...one of those New York/CBGB's art-punk bands" they'll have no idea what you mean. It's just easier to call them a punk band with guitar solos :-) I think that Costello, Joe Jackson and the Talking Heads etc. get the punk tag more for their artistic ethics and philosophies than their sound and I can deal with that. If I were going to make a definitive punk comp for someone though I wouldn't include them.

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Generalizations can be a good thing with certain genre's.

2 cases in point: When you think Reggae, who do you generally think of? When you think BM what type music?

When you think Wall Of Voodoo what type of music? Can they be "boxlabelled"? LOL!

Devo, new wave?

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Synthfreek said: "... not just filled with Sex Pistols clones."

I'm of the opinion that ALL punk bands were Sex Pistols clones. In fact, aside from the Sex Pistols, very few bands listed in this thread would really qualify as 'PUNK' in my book. Elvis Costello, Talking Heads, Oingo Boingo/Danny Elfman and Pretenders were never Punk - they showered too much and Bowie and New York Dolls were doing 'GLAM' in the '70's. The Clash was a punk band but some would consider them too political... punks were more nihilistic and just wanted to piss people off. Bad Religion, Dead Kennedy's, Black Flag, Buzzcocks, Misfits and maybe even Social Distortion might qualify in my book.

Don't forget MDC........more dead cops/millions of dead cops, metal devil cokes, millions of damm christians...etc...

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There was more energy with the new wave/punk genre back then. that's why kids today on the cutting edge look back to those bands as inspiration. My son latched onto punk over what was popular with his age group, even though it wasn't a mystery to his dad. Oddly enough, musically he was rebelling against his peers, not his parents.

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When you think Reggae, who do you generally think of?

Bob Marley and the Wailers but don't forget PETER TOSH who in the beginning was the Wailers Lead Vocalist .........

PUNK .... Remember the POLICE were considered punk ..... snicker ,snicker ... LABELS indeed ....

I didn't know about Peter!

Yep, them LABELS can generally lead to trouble,lol! Hopefully noT to the POLICE!
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There was more energy with the new wave/punk genre back then. that's why kids today on the cutting edge look back to those bands as inspiration. My son latched onto punk over what was popular with his age group, even though it wasn't a mystery to his dad. Oddly enough, musically he was rebelling against his peers, not his parents.

Never had a kid(known)but sounds like you know the pressures peers can have. Understanding where his head was at musically had to make a big difference. SOME have been down on kids, which can piss me off royally! Recognizing that kids have got to get their own YAYA's out is what parenting has to be about somewhat! Apronstrings have a place, but there comes a time.......Sounds like a good kid to me!
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