Who makes the best 7 channel surround processor out there??

[twistedcrankcammer]

It has been a few years since I followed real heavily on gear. I am getting ready to purchase a new 7 channel surround sound processor. I want to know who makes the best processor out there that is also exceptional and stands out in two channel as well as 7 channel stereo. I am already very happy with my amplification that I have, so I am looking for a processor. I don't want to spend more than about $3,000 on a processor. So far I have been looking at Krell and some Lexicon, and really like what I see in the Lexicons. Any input in sound quality between the two?? Any recomendations for other contenders in this price range??

Sorry if this double posts.... Roger

[BadDad]

I'm a little biased in my thinking but try looking at a used Meridian
568.2 Save some coin and still have a great surround processor. I have
an older 561 and it havs served me well for over 10 years. Meridian's
gear is very pricey when bought new sometimes upwards of 20K for some
of the new units but they're not that much of an improvement for the
price. The 568.2 still has DTS, 7.1 runs at 96khz..... champange
taste at a beer budget. BadDad

[CECAA850]

INTEGRA DTC-9.8

http://www.hometheatermag.com/preampprocessors/508integra/

[bhenry]

What kind of amp(s) do you have? I'm not sure if it helps to match brands, but it probably doesn't hurt.

On the other hand, I can make a strong reccomendation for B&K. I would say it would rank up there as some of the best equipment available at any price. It's not cheap but it's also not overly expensive. I've heard $60,000 McIntosh systems that my system would embarass.

[twistedcrankcammer]

What kind of amp(s) do you have? I'm not sure if it helps to match brands, but it probably doesn't hurt.

On the other hand, I can make a strong reccomendation for B&K. I would say it would rank up there as some of the best equipment available at any price. It's not cheap but it's also not overly expensive. I've heard $60,000 McIntosh systems that my system would embarass.

I have four old Nakamichi PA-7s in very good condition presently. I have always been happy with the PA-7s, but after I buy a processor, I may buy a used 2 channel Krell amp with 200 watts per channel, to compare the two. I am a big believer in multiple amps over multi-channel amplification.

Roger

[sfogg]

Lexicon, their processing does things for 7 channel systems that nobody else does.

Shawn

[jheis]

Don't know if it is the "best," but B&K just released their new Reference 70.

I'll second bhenry's B&K recommendation & concur on using multiple amps. I running a B&K Ref 50 with four B&K ST-125.2 amps in my main system of LaScalas, Cornwalls, & Heresys. Sounds good to me!

James

[CECAA850]

Another fine processor in the Integra price range is the NAD T-175.

[twistedcrankcammer]

Perhaps I should clarrify what I am looking at, and I want to compare too. I want something used, that is just a few years old or less, that I can get for arroud $3,000 used because somebody is loosing their butt in this economy. I will paste a picture of the same model Lexicon I was looking at, with a MSRP of $13,995. One just sold on ebay slightly used from a 100% feedback seller for $3,065!! As soon as you buy a processor, it will become old techknowlogy as fast as a computer. I hated the sound of the "Pushy Button" Kenwoods of the day. I don't need, or want 1000 hookups I will never use like on that Integra unit. NAD is good gear, but I want no compromise great gear with build quality that is on another plane. I am looking into the used Meridian gear as suggested. I would much rather have the best guts then the most functions. The Nakamichi PA-7s were over $2,000 each back in 1989. A used Krell amp that can be had for arround $2700 used is a $10,000 amp new. Below is the processor I am considdering, and would like input on comparable models I should look for in this price range on the used market. Thanks for being patient and helpful......

Roger

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[sfogg]

Roger,

Are you sure it was a MC-12HD that sold for $3k and not a MC-12?

If
you can get a MC-12HD used for $3k BUY IT! Last I looked that is about
what a MC-12 (v5 software) sold for. The difference between a MC-12 and
MC-12HD is the MC-12HD has the 6 HDMI inputs on it, the MC-12 does not
have those.

The MC-12 is what I was thinking of for
your budget of $3k. With v5 software it has processing for 7 channel
systems that no one else has.

Shawn

[twistedcrankcammer]

Roger,

Are you sure it was a MC-12HD that sold for $3k and not a MC-12?

If you can get a MC-12HD used for $3k BUY IT! Last I looked that is about what a MC-12 (v5 software) sold for. The difference between a MC-12 and MC-12HD is the MC-12HD has the 6 HDMI inputs on it, the MC-12 does not have those.

The MC-12 is what I was thinking of for your budget of $3k. With v5 software it has processing for 7 channel systems that no one else has.

Shawn

Shawn,

It was an MC-12HD, I had a watch on it, but descided to put my question to the forum befor pulling the trigger, to see if there was something out there similar in this price range used that I should look at. It sold for $3,065. There is a MC-12 on now with an opening bid of $2000.

Roger

[dougdrake]

Do you need it to handle the high-res surround formats (DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD), or are they not of interest, or perhaps your hi-def video source will decode and pass as PCM?

[Frzninvt]

I had your same logic on the multi channel amplifiers since I ran 4 Yamaha MX-1000U's, then 2 DBX BX-3MkII's (2,3,4 channel configurable amps) and eventually 2 rare DBX Configurable BX-I's ($5000 each) but I found a 7 channel amp that had the same performance as all of the above in a single chassis. The Sherbourn 7/2100A which is a true 7 channel mono block amplifier rated at 200W x 7 @ 8ohms and 300W x 7 @ 4 ohms. I wanted something newer that was repairable since DBX consumer has been out of business since 1990 and there is no longer a Nakamichi Service Center either and parts are scarce so it may be time to move onto other amplification. I have been very, very pleased with the Sherbourn's performance and customer service is top notch I spoke with the owner of the company directly prior to my purchase and that is not common in this day and age. Great amplifier for the price and built like a tank at 120lbs with dual power cords so you don't need a 30A service.

[j-malotky]

If you can get a Lexicon go for it.

Lexicon makes the best processors hands down.

JM

[IndyKlipschFan]

I am pretty convinced this is the way to go.. With ARC too!

http://statement.anthemav.com/HTML/Products/D2/D2.html

[CECAA850]

I am pretty convinced this is the way to go.. With ARC too!

http://statement.anthemav.com/HTML/Products/D2/D2.html

He'll be hard pressed to find one for 3K. I wouldn't sell mine for that.

[TheEAR]

The best is beyond the mortal's wallet,made by Mark Levinson. A multi box pre/pro (separate switching!).

The best by human standards is the Lexicon pointed by a few,an all around outstaning performer from a huge name in HT...Lexicon.

After you have Krell ,Anthem D2 and a few upscales units...but the Lexicon is worth each penny.

[CECAA850]

The best is beyond the mortal's wallet,made by Mark Levinson. A multi box pre/pro (separate switching!).

The best by human standards is the Lexicon pointed by a few,an all around outstaning performer from a huge name in HT...Lexicon.

After you have Krell ,Anthem D2 and a few upscales units...but the Lexicon is worth each penny.

Maybe, if your only concern is audio. When you put video into the "picture" then the D2's stock goes way up. The Anthem's audio is no slouch however, especially with ARC. (Fanboy post).

[sfogg]

"Maybe, if your only concern is audio. When you put video into the "picture" then the D2's stock goes way up."

The D2s built in video processing is nice and a good option for those looking for an all in one setup.

I took the seperates approach and use the Lexicon for audio processing and a Lumagen Radiance for the video processing. My UT integrates the two together to act as one and even puts the Lexicon's front panel display up on screen through the Radiance even though no video is passing through the Lexicon.

Shawn

[CECAA850]

The D2s built in video processing is nice and a good option for those looking for an all in one setup.

I took the seperates approach and use the Lexicon for audio processing and a Lumagen Radiance for the video processing. My UT integrates the two together to act as one and even puts the Lexicon's front panel display up on screen through the Radiance even though no video is passing through the Lexicon.

Shawn

Nice.