Def Leper

Two cannibals were eating a clown. One turned to the other and said "Does this taste funny to you?"

Yep, that's a new twist. Still has a lot of the scam hallmarks, including posting in the wrong section and the "email me for a buy it now price." Ebay is famous for dragging their heels on scams like this. Remember, ebay is little more than a big database system, and it is a straight forward job to search their database for these tell-tale signs of scam auctions, and post alerts to ebay security when enough triggers are hit. Why don't they do this? Because they will have to hire security people to monitor the hit list and take action. Why hire people when they can rely on users to alert them to the more obvious scams, and simply deal with the aftermath of the highjacked accounts that aren't caught? After all, to ebay, what's a few rubes losing their cash? It's not ebay cash. Now pass some legislation forcing ebay to cover loses due to scammers, and you might see some meaningful activity. Remember the secret ebay corporate motto. THE FEE$ MU$T FLOW

I used to use them for club speakers for several reasons-- They are of a size and weight which was about the largest that could be suspended, they are tremendously efficient, they were available unfinished, and they have excellent projection. In my installations, they were almost always never used as full-range speakers, and L48 or earthquake bins were used on the floor for low bass. I did use my mobile LaScallas at home (those are the ones I caught on fire) and they were not my idea of an ideal hifi speaker. I own a pair of Cornwalls and Heresys now, and much prefer the cornwall as a home speaker. Why? Good efficiency and projection like the LaScalla but much better low bass response.

The downside of glass tops is twofold: 1. It encourages people to set drinks on them. 2. They don't protect the speaker from a spill, which will run down the sides, back or front, including grille cloth. In another thread, I suggested that one person who was doing new construction for a bar/rec room to build dummy wall above the speakers, but for a finished room installation, I'd simply build a frame or box to match the speaker footprint, and finish it in a number of ways. Just think of the speaker front and sides continuing vertically from the top of the cab for as far as you need to prevent people from sitting drinks on top. I'm sure folks can come up with even more ideas. 1. Most expensive-- some custom cabinets that match the veneer of the Khorns, with a pair of doors in front, providing usually much-needed storage. This could extend to the ceiling or just high enough to prevent drinks from being placed on top of it. 2. Least expensive-- Simple 3/4" X 34" framework with matching grill cloth. I'd go a little fancier and provide a wood base and crown trim to match the Khorn. This could be extended all the way to the ceiling if desired. 3. Least obtrusive-- False wall corners that match the wall texture and color. Once again, I'd border top and bottom with matching wood trim. There are many other variations, including inclined planes, but the general idea is to completely protect the top of the speaker by blocking access to it.

Trust me, as a former commercial sound guy, you don't want to try to hang a heavy speaker like this from a ceiling unless you know what you are doing. And glass tops don't help if someone tips over a drink and it runs down the side or front. I would put in a dummy corner fill that matches the speaker footprint, and extend it right into the ceiling. You can finish the wall to match the wall treatment, or even veneer it to match the appearance of the Khorn. If you want to get the midrange and tweeter higher to shoot over the peoples heads, just detach the cab, unmount the drivers, and install them in the dummy wall. You can even keep the grille cloth and install that over the cutout for the upper frequency drivers. If your room has the added complication of using it as a listening room with people seated at times and using it as a bar with a lot of people standing, you can purchase an extra set of mid and high horns from ebay. Keep the original set in their cab at the normal height, and install the spare set high in the dummy wall, using a switch to select between the high-mounted or low -mounted horns.

Yep, I had to go get the Ryobi screwgun out of the lab to open the crate. Dang, I didn't know they made 8" long drywall screws. This thing is definitely going in the attic in case I ever have to ship the amp.

As they say, friends come and go, but enemies accumulate. Always nice to reverse the trend and accumulate a friend or two.

Well, as Murphy said, everyone has an idea that won't work. There are some teltale clues about this design that should wave some red flags: "My experiences have been a history of struggle for freeing myself from common senses about rear-loaded horn. " and "A rear horn utilizes the sound radiated from the back of driver to enhance effectively bass sound. A folded rear horn made of plywood is difficult to build because of its complicated structure. Moreover, its sound quality is degraded by unwanted resonance originated from its angular sound passage. " That sure doesnt' sound like someone who knows anything about horns and horn design. And I hate to say it, but someone who has freed hisself from "common senses" is what we call the village idiot back here in the midwest. There's a reason why common sense is common.

Wow, now I'm even more impressed. 16-18 watts max and I didn't even have it turned up half way.

Thanks for the kind words, Rich. As a seller, you're tops in every category. You took the time to carefully and accurately describe the item, priced it very fairly, and went out of your way to pack it very carefully for shipment. Hopefully you can stop by next time you are in Michigan visiting your folks.

Well, I received the Scott LK-48 yesterday and I've had the opportunity to listen to it for a few hours now, both with vinyl and CD. First of all, how nice to smell that hot tube smell I remember from my good old days. I was pleased with the quiet operation of the controls. This unit has been reworked and updated by Craig at NOS Valves and the controls were clean and silent. That was one of my worries. The seller gave me copies of his correspondence with Craig so I've got a good handle on what has been done. Craig is just a half-hour away so it will be easy to get the unit to him when needed. There is no hum, hiss, thumps or bumps, unlike my SS equipment, which requires unplugging the speakers before turning off. I started with the 8 ohm setting on the speaker hookups but will also try 4 ohms, which the seller preferred with his Khorns. I'm running Cornwalls, so they may end up staying at the 8 ohm setting. The main thing I've noticed with the sound is the detail and texture in the low bass response with my Cornwalls. I have one recording with some low organ pedal notes that sound boomy with my Adcom. With the Scott, I can really feel the fundamental note. Very impressive, especially since the Adcom is 200 WPC and the Scott is 48. Highs are clean and and clear but I'm not sure if I'm getting the full range I get with the Adcom. I'll have to listen some more. I'm also planning to look at the derived center channel on the unit and perhaps a mono amp to drive a center channel speaker. I think I made a good choice for a starting place and I thank all of you once again for some great advice.

Citizen Kane: The Classic Film Scores of Bernard Herrmann Charles Gerhardt Conducting the National Symphony Orchestra RCA 707 Film Scores This collection stands as one of the greatest soundtrack albums ever recorded. Bernard Herrmann personally selected the music and worked with Gerhardt during the recording session. Although the justly famous "Citizen Kane" leads the title charge, most of the music is from less successful films that caused these treasures to be buried. Thank goodness Herrmann and Gerhardt thought to give us good recordings of these lost gems. This recording is absolutely electrifying on a good sound system. I have very few orchestral recordings that give me the feeling of sitting in the audience, and this one is at the top of the list. If you like soundtrack albums, and especially if you like Bernard Herrmann's scores, this album is a must. Looking for a good demo recording for your expensive hifi system? This is it.

Indeed, the ebay ad and the responses just reek of hogwash. Why would a horn-loaded bass cabinet with a 1250-watt capacity driver impress anyone but a rube or hip-hopper? And the lack of answers about the crossovers, horns and drivers is just plain evasive. If I tilt my laptop, I can just make out the shapes of what looks like a pair or tractix horns in the upper bin. Heaven knows what is hiding behind that grill cloth. Do we dare ask for a frequency response plot? Bottom line-- If you're going to copy the Klipschorn, improve the looks and make it something uniquely your own. I see absolutely no reason not to spend less and get the real thing.

If I was going to put two refrigerators in my living room, I'd at least get the models with built a built in wine tap in one and beer in the other. [] Boyz and their toyz.

I asked the guy about the speakers too. Specifically, I asked him what drivers he was using, what materials were used in the internal construction, and with a fairly plentiful supply of real Klipschorns, why I would want to pay twice as much for his as for a clean pair of used Khorns. Reply was: my cornerhorns use 1/2 inch ac grade plywood, 1 inch basshorn fronts,3/4 for top housing,and some other parts.NO mdf or chip board or partical board is used in these cabs.,making them more than solid enouph for use with 1250 watt rms drive units.the supply of klipschorns available is irrelevent,as my eclipse cornerhorns responde with clearer sound,more pleaserable midrange responce,and basshorn modifications allow smoother and more extended low freq. responce! i hope this has been helpful,feel free to call me @ 360 651 8992 if i can help with other details,thanks for looking,cheers mike mwb157. So if you have any questions, you can give him a buzz. I suspect what you would find is that exactly one pair of these exist (or maybe only one speaker) and the guts are used Klipsch stuff from ebay. Shucks, I used 3/4" marine grade plywood for the subfloor in my bathroom. Doesn't AC have voids? Do real Khorns have 1/2 plywood in the bass bins? Doesn't sound like a good way to get smoother and more extended low frequence response to me. And the 1250 watt rms comment was a real chuckle. Wonder where he got the woofer to handle 1250 watts? Should kick a good SPL out at a very listenable 5 Hz, though.

The caning is a nice touch. Put a sink on top and put it in the bathroom or pull up a short chair and order a drink with one of the little umbrellas.

I always thought the original LaScala in any version was a rather crude looking speaker, but these are very nice. The separate bass bin really helps break up the shipping crate look. Of course, at the price they are asking, they should look good.

What a shame you folks can only relate things to rock and roll. [] -Ein Straussfest -Ein Straussfest II -Tchaikovsky 1812 -Happy Trails -Round Up Cincinnati Pops, Erich Kunzel Real guns, real loud, real deal.

The trailer creeps me out even more than the original movie. I guess I'll just have to wait for Dep to do another impersonatoin of a drunken Errol Flynn in the next Pirates of the Carribean.

I remember myself commenting on a similar casting situation with "Batman Begins" where a decidedly American genre piece is acted out by a largely UK cast. In the end, I don't think it made much difference to the audience. I pray that this isn't a case where all orientals are generic to the movie makers. Perhaps we can count on someone like Ang Lee to take us to China and look at how the economic revolution is affecting the culture? I've never quite gotten over Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon or Eat Drink, Man Woman and would like to see him tell some contemporary stories that are closer to his roots than gay cowboys. (Do they have gay cowboys in Taiwan?)

Not being limited to classic rock, I'd have to say my favorite overall guitarist is Lee Ritenour, but just about any of the Romero family does it for me in the classics and Spanish genre. As a diehard Detroiter, my favorite is the Motor City Madman, Ted Nugent. I wonder if we can get Ted to go hunting with dubya and Cheney?

Indeed. Since they were probably used to play hip-hop, they could be tin cans connected with strings and it probably wouldn't make any difference. [6]

It sounds like an internal cable interconnect has lost the shield ground or a filter capacitor has failed. A marginal solder joint can often change over time and fail, or vibration in the speaker can also cause metal fatigue and failure. I'm not a fan at all of speakers with built-in amplifiers, if only for the problem that you are experiencing right now--- An expensive set of integrated equipment that is not working because one part has failed. With separates, one can keep the speakers and repair or replace the amp.

You should have a "private stock" room for forum members only to give them an occasional deal on goodies. I'm sure it would be much appreciated by everyone on the forums and would also be a nice incentive to be a forum member.

Sound is science, except to audiophiles. For them, sound is money.