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Surrounds aren't nearly as important as mains and my signature proves that I have no issues with "non-matching" mains/surrounds. BUT - an 8" tall surround just couldn't cut it in my system. I prefer floor standing towers. I do have a speaker on a stand for the rear. but it is a KLF-C7, not generally considered a "small" speaker. Regarding the Mrs. - we each have our own crosses to bear, but mine has learned after 30+ years that I'm probably going to do it anyway. She usually doesn't like my "upgrades" at first (typically due to the space it takes up), but in time after she hears the difference, there is little that is ever spoken of it. She does ocassionally remind me of how difficult I am to live with, at which time I usually thank her for her patience [] If you can see your way into a pair of 42's or even 52's, I think you would be very happy - and may your wife find the forgiveness in her heart to share your joy. Holidays are soon arriving - what better time to treat yourselves?

I cannot speak to your specific speakers - however I can definately understand your description of the muffled sound from the center. All I can say is the correct center makes all the difference in clarity. Sometimes adjusting the volume ("gain") on individual speakers is an option as long as your receiver supports that (and yours does not). If you have the option to return the 52 for the 62 (which you post that you do), then that is what I would do. You can always run your center through your mains (Phantom mode) while your center is out getting replaced. Just my .02

My receiver has outputs for 7.1, meaning I have a single for the main center, outputs for each front main, outputs for both side surrounds and 2 outputs for the rears. To run 6.1 (which I do with a single lone rear KLF-C7) I simply put both inputs into the same speaker. All rear data comes through. Maybe not "purist", but it works for me. I get all the detail from the side channels with the filler from the rear. I run my system (music/movies/TV) on 7 channel stereo.

I use a KLF-C7 above my TV. My circumstance is a bit different, but I will share it simply for your evaluation and potential application. 1. I actually have a TV. Meaning not a flat panel. It is a HUGE/HEAVY Sony WEGA 32" inside a cabinet. 2. The C7 sits on top of the TV wedged between the TV and a shelf holding CD/DVD's 3. The C7 is above listening height - however it does not seem to affect the sound quality for me. 4. I think the optimum position would be under the TV - nearer shoulder level. 5. If I had a flat panel monitor for TV viewing, I would set the Monitor on top of the C7 - either directly resting on the cabinet or on a support I crafted to use for that purpose.

Not sure from where you are posting - there is a pair of 20's in the DFW/Tx area in the garage section - looks like $500 obo that are family hand me downs. Might be worth a check into?

Tim - I like the C7 very much - sooo much I bought a second one to use as a lone rear (6.1). I have both rear channels feeding it. It shines as a center ans is simply "filling in" as a rear until I decide what I will upgrade to next. Looking for another pair of 20's but can aford to wait for the right deal. There are some who think the C7 is one of the best centers Klipsch ever made and some legend heads that think the 20's and C7 make one of the BEST front trios. I agree. [][H][Y]

Tim - I very very specifically recall the hours I spent in the listening room (with my CD's of my songs) and the switching and comparing between sets of speakers at a "high end" shop here in town (Stereo Front Row - now out of business). It was clear to me/my ears that the 20's simply sounded louder/cleaner/more efficient than any other set of speakers they had. I have since then had a couple other Klpisch specific store owners tell me the same thing. The 20's were the best of that series bar none. I simply went with my ears.

I listen to 7 channel stereo for both music and video. For me it is a complete room filling sound. My seating position allows me to identify each speaker individually as to its output. I prefer 7 ch to all other selection options.

Ditto!!! I am a Legend head so my comments ARE BIASED. I spent hours in front of every Klipsch speaker doing a demo and walked away with the KLF-20's over every other option. I have heard/demo'd Klipschhorns and given the room and corners they are very nice. I simply am not aware of any speaker that I would rather have than the KLF-20 - for the dollar amount they cost me. The KLF-10 to my ears does not have the depth of the 20's nor are they as efficient to me (for me efficiency is defined as a specific volume setting vs the percieved volume to the ears). Meaning, the 20's will sound louder/cleaner/clearer/crisper than the 10's at the exact same volume seting at least to me. I even preferred them over the 30's as do many diehard Klipsch audiophiles. I cannot imagine a better set of mains for general all around music/movies than a pair of KLF-20's at somewhere around $600 US.

I currently use a set of Polk Monitor 70's within my Klipsch HT setup. I like them very much as rear/surrounds. I am a legend head and truly enjoy my KLF's. The polks are very capable in the role I presently use them. They were my mains at one time when my system was comprised of Polk and Bose components - however once I swapped my dedicated 2 channel Klipsch KLF-20's into the HT group - it was an upgrade of significance. I suspect you would be very happy with Klipsch speakers. Even if you utilyzed some of your polk items in a supporting role. I'll try to post up a comparison between the KLF-20 and the RF-7. Both have rear bass ports and both have 10" woofers. The Rf-7II's are a LOT more money than my KLF's were when new, and Legends are available in the Garage section from time to time for reasonable prices. http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/rf-7-ii-specifications/ http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/klf-20-overview/

I would be tempted to try both of the folowing set-ups. A. SB-3's as the front mains and center with the RB-25's as side surrounds and the KSP-C6 as the lone rear. B. SB-3's as the rear stage (side surrounds + plus single rear) and the RB-25's as mains with the KSP-C6 center. I think I would try to keep the 3 matching speakers together - either at the front or rear of your system. The front soundstage is the most critical and that is why I would at least try the 3 up front. I use a KLF-C7 as a single rear and like it. One reason I feel the KSP-C6 could serve that role.

If I were working with this set of particulars, I would phantom the LaScalla mains and use the 901's as surrounds. Regardless of the comparison (Klipsch to Bose), 901's can sound pretty good and certainly in a surround capacity could fill that role. You would not take a bath on resale as you would still be using them. Reads like you are already bitten by the Klipsch upgrade bug (K Horns etc [Y][H][Y]) so it is likely just a matter of time before you need to make room for more. The nice thing about Bose speakers is that someone always wants them. Family, friends, neighbors...just don't let them listen to your Klipsch system before they take them home.

Had Legend KLF-20's in a 2 channel set up. Purchased Bose for the TV and later added Polk Monitor 70's as the front mains, moving the 201's to the rear as surrounds and keeping the Bose center channel. Sold the 2 channel electronics and the Bose 201's + center and small Polk sub at a garage sale, picked up a KLF-C7 center to mate with the KLF-20 mains and moved the Polk Monitors to surround duty. Added another KLF-C7 as a single rear (6.1) and enjoy this set up very much. The KLF-C7 (according to some) is one of the finest center (dialogue) channels ever produced by Klipsch. Mated to the KLF-20 mains it is a strong front stage. I am immensely pleased with my current set-up over the previous Bose and Polk combination. The vocal clarity is a night and day difference over what I originally thought was a decent system. To me - Klipsch rules at this price point. I would however try to access a higher end stereo store over Best Buy. 1). the knowledge of the staff is likely to be much better and 2). building a system for your needs/tastes will be much more likey to succeed.

http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/wf-35-overview/ Does your receiver have adjustments for treble and bass? If so, then zero these out - meaning adjust these so they are not plus or minus (typically in the middle of the adjustment range). Play a favorite song and adjust these settings to your particular liking. Please know that high notes like female vocals, piano, lead guitar, etc can seem particularly clean from Klipsch speakers due to the use of horns in their engineering and design. If you are accustomed to other brands of speakers, then the higher notes most likely were never heard before - at least not to the clean clarity you are hearing them now. In movie tracts, doorbell chimes are especially clear via Klipsch horns - to the point the dog will actually start barking and go to the door.

Keep the front speakers matching. I run Polk Monitor 70's as side/surrounds and really like them - BUT they are no match for a seamless matching Klipsch front sound stage. Match the correct Klipsch center (wc-24?) with your wf-35's. For side/surrounds, these are much less critical. Get what you can afford and upgrade when you can. As I said, I really like my Monitor's as side/surrounds. Pairing up to my Legend KLF's it is a grand sound in the room it plays.

I have the Monitor 70's as my sides/rears and would not consider replacing them with KLF-10's. KLF-20's for sure - but not 10's. After looking at both the KLF-10's and Tangent 500's - I would choose the 10's over the 500's but neither over the Monitor 70's you already have. The CF3's have great specs. I trust those are your mains. What about the Monitor 70's as side/surrounds are you trying to improve upon? My opinion is that neither the 10's nor 500's will improve noticibly over what you already have. Your CF3's are front firing bass ports as are the Monitors. Just not sure what you are wanting and not sure that either the KLF-10's nor Tanget 500's will give it to you. I would put the $200 towards a matching center for the CF3's and keep the Monitor's as side/surrounds.

Another option to consider is to run your fronts on Phantom (where the center channel is split into your 2 mains). Pick up a decent sub. When you decide to upgrade - buy the matching front 3 (2 mains plus center) and move your KG's to side/surround duty. OR you could pick up the center now and use it later as a single rear (6.1).

My KLF-20's are directly beside the sides of my TV cabinet - facing the premier seating position. My sub is next to one of the 20's (I have a bottom firing sub w/ side port facing the corner). I run 7 channel stereo for both HT and Music. This set up works well for me. But each has their own requirements and what they are striving to achieve. In your photo my 20's would be placed at the outside edges of your screen (about 5.5 - 6' centerline to centerline) with the sub on the outside of the right cabinet. My seating position is directly in front of the screen (about 12' away) with a pair of towers on each side (about 8' centerline to centerline) with the rear C7 centered overhead (about 6' back).

If yours becomes a permanent long term relationship, you may very well come to appreciate her views on frugality. Best advice I can give you is to have separate accounts and separate money. Split the bills in some equitable way (typically a percentage based on income - ie 70/30, 60/40, 50/50 etc). You pay X while she pays Y and Z or vis versa. That way you each can budget your funds to get the items important to you without requiring approval from the other - just make sure the bills get paid first. There are typically only 3 things couples argue over. 1. sex. 2. money. 3. children. If you find one who is sexually compatible with you, and each has their own money, then the only thing left is children. If you have no children (or at least agree on how many and what values to raise them by), then there is nothing to argue over. Simple. []

using 12-14 gauge here. No complaints. Speakers seem to like it. I couldn't afford $3/ft with my runs.

That's what I was thinking. I thought Legends were a separate line (lineage) than Heritage. As a Legendhead I think they are grand - just sayin...

I prefer quality. Price point is less important that the quality of the material and embroidery. As an example, I own a few Harley Davidson button front shirts with large embroidered backs (Eagles). They wash up fine. Quality is evident. I am guessing I paid around $115 for those. My idea of a Klipsch logo is the simple text with the under V. Either on the left chest or even a full back. Black material with Gold embroidery is what I envision as a winter shirt. For summer, I wear LL Bean fishing shirts every day. I own probably 20 of them (white, yellow, mineral red, light blue, pale green, etc). $45 each with LL Bean embroidered above the left chest pocket. As a reference.

Surrounds are much less critical than front mains. I have thrice moved my mains into duty as surrounds as upgrades occurred. 4-7 year old Klipsh speakers (that were not abused) will sound like new. I would have zero reservations about buying used (and have done so on KLF-C7's and been very happy).

My 663 allows for manual db setting of any speaker. Your manual should have a section for adjusting manually. It will display each speakers db setting and you can adjust just those you wish. Of course I would be seated in your normal listening position for any adjustment. Just added my 2nd C7 a week ago.

As a certified Legend Head - I am partial to the KLF's and in particular the 20's. Mine started life in a dedicated 2 channel and have been pressed into service as the mains in a 7ch stereo/HT. At $350.00 US, that is a very very good price. With some KLF's (mine included) the back panel may separate and present vibration noise at higher volumes. A little Gorilla Glue however takes care of this is short order. Very minor fix. FWIW - many KLF owners find the 20's to be particularly enjoyable. Great rock and roll speakers (fond of J Giles, Cream and Doors), fine with country, and Jazz like 3rd Force just talks to you - sax and piano sparkle. Vocals like those of Clannad are clear, crisp, and clean. eta: Movies tracts like the Dark Knight will stir your soul. Great speakers.