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Arturo Fuentes (including 3 Opus X) and 1 very old pre-ban Cuban (acquired from a local tobaconist at a cigar dinner). I am a very occassional cigar smoker (1-3 times a year) but have settled on Arturos for my humidor as to me nothing smokes as mild. It is not uncommon for me to have Opus X's or Grand Reserves or Hemmingways - aging in cedar for years. From my pipe days (25 years ago) I still have many Charatan's, Savinelli straight grains, Parkers, Ben Wades, and numerous carved Merschams in the antique bookcase. Some have never had a bowl filled or lit. Straight stems, bent stems, even a Calabash.

In my opinion - the KLF-30's are not as efficient as the 20's are - meaning that at the same volume the 20's will sound louder/fuller (at least to my ears). That said, the 30's are great speakers in the legend series and the Legend series bodes especially well in 2 channel set ups.

As an owner/user of KLF-20's and a C-7, I actually prefer the KLF-20's in 2 channel over the HT set up. Based on this and never having heard the RF-83's - I suspect the RF's would be better in a HT enviornment as from the Klipsch literature it appears that the RF series is designed for HT applications. Please do not misunderstand my post - I really like my 20's and C7, but I think the 20's shine better in 2 channel - at least for me.

James, I currenttly at least 300 CDs, starting from hard rock, Canadian french rock, to Jazz to even movies soundtracks I'm currently enjoying my collection of Diana Krall albums. Later on, will put some Eric clapton. Diana Krall - nice choice.

Great find/buy on your decided upon speakers. Enjoy fully. IMO the KLF-20's are more efficient than the 30's and a better choice. I enjoyed my KLF-20's better when they were dedicated 2 channel than now in HT. In 2 channel the 20's just rock!! Hope you get a chance to hear a pair sometime.

Congrats on finding what you were seeking. Enjoy it fully. Personally had a looooong time yearning for an Ovation. After years of wanting, found a Balladeer (w/out cutout) on special discount at a local store. I wanted and needed an acoustic with electronics and this one fit the bill. The necks action was the single greatest factor in the decision. Had played on marginal guitars for a couple decades and this Ovation was clean, crisp, tight and full. When plugged into my (very early 70's) Concord tube amp it rocks. From country twang to full note blues, it simply has it all. Hope you enjoy your dream guitar as much as I have enjoyed mine.

Flash is a street name given to me by a few bikers I used to ride/party with. I shot alot of pics for them (Scootin' n' shootin' - Bikers, Bikes, Babes and ol' ladies). "Flash" was taken here - so Fotog was selected.

I set mine up manually from the primary viewing/listening position. As I am running a different brand rear tower, I needed to compensate for the efficiency difference. I run 7 channel stereo for all normal music and TV viewing with Sci-fi for DVD movies.

Buy the RF-63's at that excellant price. Place them as front mains. Upgrade the rest of your system when you decide to with the option of using the 63's as sides/rears at some point. Imagine a pair of 83's up front and the 63's on the sides. As mentioned in another thread, you can always run your center channel through your two front mains and I suspect the 63's would handle it quite well untill you decided what exactly your next move was. Lots of folks use what they have untill they get what they yearn for. It is simply the process. Enjoy. Buy the Rf-63's at that great price and use them wherever they fit into your system. Front mains for now. You'll love the upgrade.

Congrats! I think God himself listens to KLF-20's mated to a C7. Not that I am biased at all.

When I first bought mine, I went back to the shop and wanted a "graphic equalizer" as that is what I thought I wanted/needed for more bass. The techs said I needed a sub woofer and that is what I bought. A decade later, and as part of a HT setup, I am a Legend fan for life. I suppose there are better speakers out there than the KLF-20's, but mine sound so good I'll likely never look. They do need to be away from the wall as these have rear ports. Corners give extra depth. Very best of luck with your deciphering the root cause of your shy bass. Can't argue with the 10 points above.

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Have to wholeheartedly agree on Santana's Abraxas. Surprised that no J Giles - "Full House" or Uriah Heep - "Look at yourself" or even some Crosby/Stills/Nash and Young. For those who like Hendrix/Dylan's All Along the WatchTower, check out Savage Grace's version. It'll make the hair stand straight up on your neck. Their ending is one of rocks all time best. Savage Grace's All Along the Watch Tower is why God made Klipsch.

The C7 is by far the best choice and if you have the patience that might be the right avenue for you. Perhaps running without a main until the C7 comes available. They are out here and some in outstanding condition. After looking for nearly 7 months I literally stumbled accross one, and when I received it, was astonished that it was literally like new condition. Some folks really take care of their stuff and when they decide to upgrade, it is great for the rest of us. Patience young grasshopper.

I guess it depends on what your intended use is. My Yamaha 663 controls all my sound from simple TV viewing (news/sports) to CD's to DVD's. The Klipsch (and Polk Monitor 70 Towers) are remarkable accross this wide application. Set on 7 channel stereo for normal TV and CD's and Sci-Fi for movies. I don't profess to be nearly as knowleable as many here about the intricacies of "bi-wire" and "crossovers" and separate amps for different speaker sets and replacing drivers etc, but I do know what my ears like, and my ears really like listening to good music (3rd Force/Govi) and great movies (King Arthur/Star Wars/Ronin) on my system. To me the Legend of Klispch is the Legendary Legends - but I am just one opinion. The Yamaha simply allows the Klispch speakers to do what they were designed for - deliver great sound.

I have the Yamaha 663 and am very happy with it. I completely understand your story and will tell you to get what you can afford and upgrade as you see fit. Quests afterall are a journey. Someday I'll upgrade my Polk Monitor 70 tower surrounds - but for now they work just fine. They used to be the mains with Bose 201's as the rears - so imagine my upgrade list. Just stay on the path of enlightenment. [H]

This is purely my opinion and it is biased. For my money, the KLF-20's are superior to the 30's. When first deciding on which set to get a decade ago, the 20's were simply the best sound producer and most efficient in the KLF series (10/20/30). Mate a C-7 center channel (if you can find one) to the KLF-20's and it really is remarkable how crisp and clear dialogue and vocals are. But again, this is just my biased opinon. I will state that for 2 channel stereo the KLF-20's were great and now as front mains in a HT setup, I remain impressed.

bigdaddy - a year ago I'd probably said "no problem" but today, I think I'll wait a bit longer and do a total system with Blue Ray - if I decide to go the HDTV route. Thanks for the input.

Larry - thanks. I concur that the XBR Wega has a solid sound system for a television. No comparison to my Klispch set up, but quite good for a stand alone TV unit. Much appreciate you sharing your experience on the matter.

Mark - truly appreciate your thoughts. They support my thoughts and it is encouraging to read that I pretty much have a grasp of the options. I do not have Blue Ray presently and I think that would be something one would want if they intended to optimize the potential of a high def system. For 10-12 year old technology the XBR Wega was pretty darn good. Have gotten alot of veiwing pleasure from it. Thanks again for your thoughts.

With the upcoming change from analog to digital signals, many consumers are upgrading their home entertainment screens. I am one of those. My primary TV has been a 32" Sony Trinitron XBR Wega flat screen monster (supporting up to 1080 res). It is about 10 years old ('96/'97/'98) and probably the earliest version of this model series. It has had an excellant picture and in my opinion continues to have. Movies (VCR/DVD) were and continue to be excellant when viewed on this set with video S cables (this set predates HDMI). I have digital cable as my current TV signal source. These are my questions: 1. With the move to Digital signal and the advent of HDTV - is the picture quality on the newer Flat Panel 16:9 format LCD monitors equal to my current massive tube? (or even superior?) ( I am maxed at 36-37" width so Plasma likely is not an option). 2. If the newer HDTV's are superior what makes them so? 3. Is the cost of buying a new HDTV (minimum $800-$3000) worth the veiwing difference over the ability of my current XBR Wega? I'm sure someone here has pretty profound knowledge on these systems and I appreciate up front your thoughts. BTW, the Klipsch system (KLF-20's/C-7/ Sub and Yamaha) is the sound provider.

Have you given any consideration to Saturn? The new Vue's have V6's and are rated for 3500 pounds towing. If you go to www.gmbuypower.com you can build your own and compare it to any other vehicle(s) out there - side by side. It also has 5 star safety ratings. Worth a look in my opinion.

Did you change the configuration of your receiver to reroute the bass to the subwoofer channel? If your system was setup correctly when the sub was connected to the speaker level outputs, then the subwoofer output should have been off. If you didn't change the configuration when you swapped cables, then that might be something to look into. Also, when running the sub off the speaker level outputs, there is no crossover happening inside the receiver - just whatever you had the settings on the subwoofer itself set to. When you connect the sub to the RCA cable, the receiver is adding its own crossovers (ideally to both the mains and the sub). This will change the phase at the crossover frequencies which can affect the interaction between the sub and mains. If things end up outta phase, then they actually cancel out and result in less bass. In hind sight, what I believe occurred, is the transition from 2 channel where only music was played through these speakers/sub to HT where even TV was listened to through these speakers/sub. I went from hearing bass every time I listened to my Klipsch speakers (as in 2 channel) to only when CD's or DVDs were played and it took me a bit to understand the dynamics. The sub plays fine when some good "3rd Force" is played or with a solid DVD soundtrack. I think I'm OK for now. I'm still also learning my new receiver and its miriad of settings for TV sound.

I just found a cable (video/audio 2 into 3 - mono to stereo) at Radio Shack for $3.97. It was an opened package and on clearance. It had Gold knurled leads. Used it on my receiver to sub (one white lead from receiver sub out to red/white sub in) and it works fine. I simply ignored the yellow video cable leads. Radio Shack also had sub specific cables from $4.99 up to and over $100. I'm quite content with this $3.97 cable. It has the size (cable diameter) of the more expensive sub cables along with the "gold" leads, all for a fraction of the cost.

I just picked up the Yahama RX-V663 7.1 and really like it. It runs a pair of KLF-20's, a KLF-C7, KSW-150 sub and a pair of Polk Monitor 70 towers. My room is 22'x22'x22' with adjacent loft, dining room, entry foyer, sunroom, hallway etc. It rocks.