t-man

I've never cared for the whole 3D thing - I don't think it's going to last. I love my Plasma - sounds like you have a room that is forgiving of any choice you have. Get the biggest/baddest you can afford that will comfortably fit your space.

Looks like the last one just got snatched up - I hope it was from a member here (:

YEP, looks to be the same exact amp for sure. Love it, love it, love it!! I got mine for $250 shipped since it was open box/returned. Looks and performs like new!

If you have a high end passive sub, you deserve to get this amplifier for it! I just got mine yesterday and it's amazing. Elegant, quiet, and powerful. I feel like I'm hearing my SVS for the first time. The pro amp (350 Watt RMS/4 ohm) didn't even come close to what this can do for my setup. I would not have believed it if I hadn't tested it myself. He had 6 of these 2 weeks ago, and there is one left as of this posting. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNELL-SPA-750-SUB-AMP-NEW-750-Watts-4-ohms-375-Watts-8-ohms-/220915780193?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336f9b4a61

agreed on 4.5s up front.

No, I wouldn't "mount" Quartets. They have a rear passive radiator (like the Forte) and need room to breathe. They are also heavy and quite large for mounting. I agree that a KG series rear floor speaker would work from any of the options. The .5 series are taller and skinnier (deeper, though) than the .2 series (shorter, wider). If you want to mount some speakers, a KG1 would work and you can put it flush on your wall as it is a sealed cabinet. The design is like a mini Forte, and has the same finises, grills, laser logo badges. There was also some inwall speakers a while back that were similar to the KG 2.2/5 that would work well in that room.

I'd get the Academy if you can find one, and it's priced similarly to a C7. Both are hard to find without paying huge shipping costs. You could also just get both if they are local and priced OK - try them out for yourself. Both are easy to sell.

Try an EQ?

Ditto! I would add, that that cabinet size difference is substantial as well. More than I would expect.

Before I do anything, I would take one of my mains and throw it up there and do some careful comparison listening of the center channel. It may be the speaker, but it could also be the reflections off the ceiling, high placement, etc..... Swapping another RF7 up there might help you figure out what is going on. I turned a KG 5.5 on it's side as a center in between two KG 5.5 mains and kept it like that for years. I was originally planning to reorient the drivers like you did, but after hearing it simply turned on it's side, I was more than satisfied. Needless to say, I never did complete the conversion and ended up eventually selling all three 5.5s.

$20?? Time to put some notes on the back of my speakers for my loved ones in the event of my death.

The KG 2.2V was the center channel - same as the 2.2 or 2.5, but with bucking magnets for the TV. These bookshelf speakers go much lower than most traditional center channels. The KV3 center was another close match to these, but was a traditional center channel smaller design with front porting. I set up a pair of 2.2s and a KV3 along with KG .5 rears and an SW12 sub for my dad's family room, and it really rocks the place. Perfect answer for his built in shelving on his TV wall that goes floor to ceiling / wall to wall. While my KLF 20s were out for repair, I used the 2.5s for my main HT for a couple weeks. Sounded great! I now have that pair of black 2.5s for sale in the garage section. My first ever pair of Klipsch speakers were KG 2.2s I got in my Freshman year in college. I really stretched my wallet to afford those, and they were awesome.

Too bad both of these recordings totally suck!!!!! I purchased both and can hardly listen to them. It's only tolerable in 2 channel, and even that is a stretch. Very dissapointed as this is my all time favorite band!

I've had the opportunity to own/audition a variety of small Klipsch speakers. I always go back to the KGs as my favorites. Great styling, nice wood veneer, and almost free on the used market. They sound great. I had a set of RB5II that I just couldn't make myself enjoy compared to a good 'ol KG 2.5 or 2.2. I have also tried the RB35, and they are essentially the same to me as the RB5, but with better placement options with a front port (no wood veneer, though). Another nice option for mounting on shelves is a KG1. This is a sealed enclosure in the classic Klipsch design with the laser badges. I have a pair I will never sell that I absolutely love. The KG 1 or 2 series speakers in all three versions are nice and cheap to find. They can also be laid on their sides like you mentioned with no problem, and the badges are often repositionable for this.

Where are you located? I'd say $500-700 depending on condition. There are many variables with these KLF as cabinet construction was a running change due to issues over the run of the KLF series.

I'm saving these for some day when I get bored and need to tinker with these speakers some more. I think I'll be keeping them for a LONG LONG time. They are really a nice speaker. Great 3 way sound with modern styling at a great price.

After much thought and consideration, I have finally assembled my KLF 20s and put them in service during the past several days. I'm very satisfied. I gutted them and had a wood working friend of mine glue in 1x1 strips from top to bottom in all 4 corners to seal up the seams. It is very solid now. I even cut up some wood to install some internal bracing, but after trying to figure out where to put it all decided to just leave it as it was stock. I had Crites rebuild my crossovers, and when the Ti diaphragms are available again, I will use those as well. The speakers are in place and sound really good. I can't make them resonate and I carefully adjusted the feet/spikes to balance on my carpet covered concrete floor. They are very stable and aren't moving at all during loud bassy music. I'd say they are good, and am satisfied that I did enough to improve them without overbuilding them. As for Bob Crites, I am very pleased with the turnaround and professionalism of his business. Quick and detailed responses to all my emails, and he was super fast to get them back to me. I look forward to trying the Ti Diaphragms in the 20s and my C7 when they become available again.

very good find, very good price

Agreed on the KV3 as a very budget friendly option and it is also very easy to place into an existing HT compared to the others. I would also add the Quartet to your search for good centers to go with your Forte speakers.

Ehh, that sucks. Crites is still out of the diaphragms (backordered). The "perfect/mint" KLF 20s i recently found locally are also now apart - the front and back panels were totally loose on both and I'm also awaiting my rebuilt crossovers from Crites. I keep contemplating building them up on the inside with internal bracing, but I can't convince myself it's totally necessary yet. I'm regretting selling off my KLF 30s, which were sonically wonderful (no rattles, excellent solid cabinets and drivers). However, I am still hoping that I can get these beautiful 20s to be nearly just as good.......

Powerful enough for you here: http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/msg/2760156703.html http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/msg/2760832230.html I would consider an Emotiva XPA-3 unless you really need the cooling fans and extra power (KLF 30s only rated to 200 RMS). I'd be very curious to try/borrow those existing mono amps you are using in my setup when you are ready to move them out.

YEP, and you can see that what you describe is the same method the RF7s appear to have. You can see from the black bottom-up photo, that the "shelf" is sitting on cleats, too.

I think I follow your thinking on this Moray. This RF7 pictured bracing was inside my factory KLF30s. I find it strange that it does not appear in my KLF 20s. As mentioned before, they might have had a running change on these back in the day due to failures of the early cabinets?

I found these photos of RF7s in the process of assembly. If I can make 2 inner boxes with 3/4" ply like these have, it should work well to stiffen up the cabinet and minimize flexing of the side panels. Then glue it all together and seal up all the seams.

How did you prep the MDF? Any primer or sanding?