tragusa3

Nice setup!

I heard a fellow forum members theater a few weeks ago with Khorns/LS center, Heresies rear and two 30" tubas. I couldn't imagine anyone not being satisfied! It was outstanding! His were tuned better than my twin DTS10's are, thus, his low end performance was better than mine. I'm in desparate need of an EQ to put a house curve on mine. In the frequencies that mine are doing best at, it is evident that I have more capability, but really either option has tremendous potential.

Take it from me, don't hunt until you're prepaired to buy. I posted a WTB and my whole system came out of the woodworks! Good luck.

When you get the right formula, it may not need "updating". Case in point would be the Khorns and most of the Heritage line. Have you heard the THX system? I bet if you've heard it you wouldn't be asking for an update. I own it and don't know what improvement I would desire...

My first post in this forum. Interesting comment jdm56. I just changed out my front three to LaScala's and although they are known for lack of bass, it is quite evident in my room that they improved that very thing! It is much smoother and seems to dig even lower. If you asked me for the top few improvements they made for me I'd have to say they improved my subwoofers! FWIW, my room is 17.5'x32'x9'ht and I am having some struggles with the subwoofers. At first, I thought it was just the volume of space being demanding, but I'm now thinking I've got a nasty dimension ratio. I'll overcome it, but the room is definetely not playing a "supportive" role.

I have a pure GSD, and if I squent real tight and let my eyes out of focus I can see GSD in your baby. LOL Seriously, I'll put a vote in for lab and Dobe.

Dennie, I can't believe I forgot to respond to your post. Thanks for all the info! I wanted to update that I just picked up a third to use as a center in the trio! It's a '75 with AA's. All original except the finish. It's in pretty good shape. Had a 3 hour drive and a speeding ticket in order to get it, but I'm done hunting down LaScala's ! LOL I haven't gotten to listen any yet, but will post impressions over the weekend. The previous owner was using it's mate as a center between Khorns, and it was phenomenal! If I end up with the same it will be DA BOMB! Here's a few photos.

I bought my Ultra2 system through them. I can't say enough about the service. I had one speaker with a small ding on it. They gave me the option of a new one or a reasonable cash credit for the ding. I took the money. Also blew a driver in one speaker about 8 months after purchase. They OVERNIGHTED me a new driver. No questions. I'll buy through them if I ever buy again.

i just paid $1000 for a pair of 88's that are a 9 of 10. Paid a little much, but the seller was 600 miles from me and he drove 400 of them to meet me. That had a value. I might have paid a bit more, but ones in this condition don't pop up every day.

Born and raised in NOLA. Who Dat! Thanks for the above props. As unbiased as I can be, the Saints (players, coaches and fans) really did pull together a worthy effort. On with the 2011 Season! See you guys in Dallas!

I'm using an Emotiva amplifier and have been thoroughly impressed. With the return policy in mind, I'd have to give it a try.

From your description of listening tastes...I.E. LOUD!!! And if you're in a large space and expecting audio levels to match your competition car system...I'd venture to say you may not have the right tools for the job. Got to pay to play!

Went all these years without one and my Mother got one for my birthday. Said now that I have children I need it. It's been nice to have a few times, but it was so enjoyable to NOT have one. Our friends and family all talk behind my back because the cell phone phenomenon is something I get on the soap box for. We don't allow them in our basement. In fact, there will be a sign at the top of our stairs telling people to check all electronic devices in at the door. They aren't wanted in our place of serenity. If you've got something that important, then you aren't fully engaged with us...and you can go home and do important things!

I agree with the suggestions of getting more capable surrounds. I find that as I got more and more appropriate equipment for the size of my space that there was no need to play with channel volumes.

I have a set of the KL650's from the Ultra2 system. After about 5 months of ownership I noticed a bad sound from the horn of my center channel. It ended up being a blown compression driver on the horn. I don't know for sure, but I think it was due to overdriving the amplifier. It was a mid grade receiver and I was trying to fill 5000cf with reference level sound. Come to find out, they weren't designed for that. Or it could have been manufacturing defect. In the end, Klipsch covered it under warranty and mailed me a new horn in a few weeks time. It was easy to replace and all has worked fine ever since. I did upgrade amplifiers. I would think you could replace only the parts needed. Good Luck!

I have many, many hours of listening to DVD and Bluray concerts in 5.1 with the KL650's. 2 channel was not an option with those (even with the sub involved). Last night I tried again with some familar material, and was really impressed. My wife came in the room and I asked her how it sounded. She said, "nice". Then I told her it was just the two La Scalas. She was really impressed too. Saying she couldn't tell, it sounded like it was all around the room. It's always nice to get honest, unbiased opinion.

Interesting how perspectives change. I see my post from March differently now. Since then, I've added a second DTS10, and had to upgrade the KL650's to La Scalas. I'm infected for sure...someone put me down before I hurt someone!

If your purposes are for outdoor theater without a critical eye on video, you can get away with a residential grade projector. I'm using a $2k projector on a 14' wide image inside with light control, and it is STUNNING! In your application, you'd just be trying to have a good movie experience....not impress somone with the finer points! Look me up on AVS forum (Tony123). My construction thread includes a few screenshots at this image size.

I found an "exploded" view of the cabinet construction. I understand now. The slot is in front of the driver, so all sound coming from the driver exits through this slot.

So it's a sealed box. Okay. I'm still not wrapping my mind around the slot in the motorboard??? I think I'll open mine up. Nothing like seeing it for yourself. I'd like to verify stock woofers anyway. Hey, I too, have a German Shepherd. She only spends 2-3 hours a day in the house due to all that hair! It is much better than our Lab used to be. That hair was like velcro. At least GSD hair clumps together and doesn't stick to most things. She's in the theater about 4 hours a week, so the LaScala should be safe.

Willy, I realize how important that center will be AND CAN'T WAIT ! Olorin, thanks for the link. Am I reading the drawings correctly? the woofer box (triangular) has a port around the bottom? Thanks for the swiffer tip. I'll give it a shot. McD, I did notice it was easy to find "bar" speakers. I actually thought that's what I wanted. Seeing as how mine are hidden anyway. In the end though, for the difference of a few hundred dollars, I thought it was worth it to get something that I could have a bit more pride in. Also, if I were to ever sell, these should get my money back for me easier. For now, can't imagine needing to sell. Yes, thanks to Trey for his input! I've now watched a few movies and listened to some music. I'm sure this will wear off, but for now I keep letting the volume control creep up to the point that I'm left with fuzzy ears at the end of the night. They just beg for more and more! I need to get over this soon though, or I'll loose my hearing and run out of Advil.

Use an SPL meter to verify all channels are at 75db. Mine did the same thing, and the meter showed the sub to be almost 5db on the low side. It's common for Audyssey to not get the channel volumes correct.

Anyone have a link to a photo of the interior of the LaScala? I'm assuming the woofer is rear firing and the triangular section of the cabinet is a sealed box?

Youthman, I get new LaScalas and the subs still steal the show....what am I gonna do?!??! In honesty, they still steal the show sonically as well. Thanks for the tip on cleaning the crossover. It's got 22 years of dust on it. I currently have moved my KL650's to surround duty and they are doing a fine job there. If I sell them I'll look for some Heresys though. I will be on the lookout for another single LS. If any of you come across one in the southeast let me know please. I'm so pleased. Playing a "Transformers" demo last night and it is soooo powerful. It's what I've always imagined the pinnacle of home theater to sound like (for me)!

My theater has undergone lots of transitions since I last posted here. The short of it is that after adding my Danley subs I found the KL650's unable to keep pace and have been looking for something that can. I have a buddy with Khorns and love his sound, so I started researching the Heritage line. Being that the subs are so capable, I didn't need the Khorn for it's low end. The LaScala was the natural choice, plus it's so much bang for the buck in the used market. So far, they are obviously better mated to the subs. Every driver in the system is horn loaded, and they have a similar 'character' to them. The LS will belt out the sound in a more commanding way than the KL's could. I think the LS has more rough edges to it's sound, but I think I can tune the system and room a bit better to help with that. Feel like I got a fair buy on a pair that is in pretty good shape. They are 88 models with the AL crossover. One owner, very few marks in the cabinets. The color choice wouldn't have been my first pick, but that doesn't matter much being hidden behind my screen. I do plan to find a single to use for center channel. The KL's are now my rear surrounds. If anyone has comments that can help me learn more about them please post. I'm sure to have lots of questions. From the photos, do these look like dime a dozen speakers, or in better than typical condition? I haven't seen the used market much, but I was impressed by them for being 22 years old. What is an easy method of cleaning dust out of the crossover network? Here's some photos. Listening comments to come as I form opinions.