JiminSTL

Thanks, Jim. When you say the connector in the AVR may be loose, would that derail the sat video and audio if the ethernet cable were disconnected from the AVR?

Question, please: is it possible or likely that merely by running a Cat 5 cable from a router to the ethernet port of a Sony receiver that serious damage could occur to the AVR? Specifically, when "helping" a friend do that, the satellite connection in the AVR no longer worked. At first, we got video but no audio, then nothing. Is there some inherent risk (even very small) in connecting/disconnecting an ethernet cable? Could we have "fried" some circuitry, or something? Was such a failure just waiting to happen, and this triggered it? Will appreciate some insight, as I feel bad about this. Thanks.

The nerve! What is the matter with all these people--"muddying the high frequencies"? Clearly, Chipotle means well (the Heresy speakers), they just don't know the REAL draw to their restaurant . . . .

KLF-10 is what is on the label on the back (photo 3).

Dave, thanks for an informative explanation. I believe that even I understand now about the functions of the pre-amp and amp! Clarity and understanding make for much better discussion and problem resolution.

But look at the support you have given to all of us who have done things like that--probably a number of times, depending on how many decades of life have been experienced. Sometimes, being unique and one-of-a-kind is over-rated!

Dave, I did own/use the KV-4. With my KLF-30s and 20s. I loved the KV-4 before I sold it when the chance came along to "upgrade" to the more matched KLF-C7. While I do not, evidently, have the understanding and/or ability to make finer auditory distinctions (meaning, I loved the KV-4 in its then-current use with the KLFs), even I was able to detect some difference (or so I thought) when I substituted the C7. 20% "better"? Don't know. But that KV-4 is one heckuva speaker!

Understand. When I (just for fun) hooked up my KV-4 that I had previously, and my present KLF-C7 centers and listened, I was amazed. And while they are different series, their size and sound together sounded like towers.

RB-75s are undoubtedly, very, very good. 'Tis me Scottish blood, though . . . .

^ Agree. Kinda my question/point in the other thread I referenced.

Hmmmm, Notice--$750. Slightly less than the pair of RB-75s discussed at $800 in another thread? How can anyone compare the value (the sound and size) of the $800 RB-75s against these RF-5s AND the RC-7? Ah well, maybe is the bourbon talking in me . . . ?

jimjimbo, That is what I have read (and experienced personally): the KG 2.2V center channel speaker integrates very well with the KG line. In fact, I have the KG 2.2s as L/R, and the 2.2V as the center down here in my home office (basement). They were made to go together, and they sound wonderful, IMO. Oops. My bad. Failed to read. The question is about KV centers, not KGs . . . . Sorry.

jweber and arrow, Must be "me Scottish blood", but I think you make a lot of $ and cents sense. You know, relative and incremental values--if one is on any kind of budget for these things . . . .

Bill, I understand that explanation. They are worth what buyer and seller agree they are worth. Bet they do sound wonderful . . . like my floorstanding speakers.

Bill, I don't want to call anyone names. H o w e v e r, I honestly would like to understand the rationale for the bookshelf speakers at anything like that price. Are the woofer and horn different from other similar-sized Klipsch (floorstanding) speakers? Are they truly superior in terms of material or assembly or cabinetry, or something? I mean, as I look at all the other good floorstanding speakers, for instance the KLF-30s, 20s (both often with sought after mods) at around that price (+/-), and the 10s much lower, I really do not understand. And as so many of those who post here talk about soundstage, and presence, and big sound, etc., if the RB-75 really is the equal of good and/or large floorstanding speakers, why do so many people vote for the floor models? Now, I have never heard the 75, but I respect the very high evaluation of those who do know them. I am struggling to understand the relative value, though, at $700 or $800. There likely is something I don't know . . . . Thanks.

Dave, Re your comment above, how about the people who insist on actually listening to the speakers before handing over hundreds (or more) dollars? I mean, I generally do (though, didn't listen on a recent purchase of $200--at the man's nice home). What is a good, generally mutually satisfactory means of handling that? Thanks.

rockanroller, just sent you a PM.

^ cradledorf, just sent you PM.

Good question to ask, and good "problem" to work toward resolution. I have and use all 3 (the KLF-30s, the 20s, and the 10s). Disclaimer: they all are going up for sale. Not because of ANY dissatisfaction with any of them (truth is two fold: I LOVE THE SOUND THEY PUT OUT--hype and standard stuff aside, they are ASTOUNDING), and I want to put the $ toward a pending wedding of my daughter). So, while I am not saying there are not other speakers just as good as the KLF series, you must identify them, test them, convince yourself that your analysis is sound, and then successfully negotiate their purchase. The KLF series does eliminate most of that effort and activity. And (personal opinion), they simply look good with their very stolid, masculine appearance. What the heck, my wife likes the sound they produce, too! Good luck with your endeavor!

Matt, Your speakers reflect a lot of good imagination, thought, and work. They look fantastic!

^ Bill, am sure you know what you are talking about. Being less experienced (and equipped!), it is hard for me to see how a very good, large bookshelf could match the fullness, power, and dexterity of a very good large floor standing speaker such as the KLF 30 or 20. Maybe it can, or can come so close as to be a close call at the plate. Would the same be true in a large® setting, perhaps with 6-7000 ft3?

^ mattSER, interesting comments. Wow! And I appreciate what you are saying, though it is hard for me to understand. I have the 30s, 20s, and 10s. Absolutely love them! Have not heard the 75s, so my comments are, in a sense, meaningless and uninformed. Would you actually prefer the 75s over the KLF-10s, for instance (if you have some preference for your 20s over the 75s)? I ask these questions because my own experience, ears, and "sensitivity" are not all that great in comparison with the "old timers" here on the Forum. Is hard for me to understand how the particular speakers, cabinets and size, and intangibles of an admittedly large bookshelf (the 75) could really come close to or equal the performance of a good-sized floor speaker. In this case KLF10s/20s/or my 30s. Or substitute others--brands, sizes of bookshelves or small floor speakers, etc. (for instance, a Polk 10C or 7B, just to be cantankerous). I know that a number of people share this view of the RB-75. It's just, as I stated above, that it seems to defy the lengthy reasoning of more comments and professional opinions than I can recall or count in various posts here. But, that is one thing that makes the Forum interesting, right?

teaman, how sad. For him. For you, for your wife, and all who loved and ache for your stepson. Sadly, you have known first-hand that Life is not "fair" or by nature "good". Christ consented to be crucified that we might, in the end, recover from Life, and find the goodness, the delight, and the eternity of those states with Him.

Principle, consistency, firmness, love, and self-sacrifice. The comments above reflect some/all of those in varying degrees and relative importance. The Bible tells us to not "provoke your children to anger". It also tells us that the parent who really loves his child will lead, guide, advise, restrain, praise, reward, rebuke, discipline, and let go. The what, the when, the how much, the order of all these--the tough part. But, I have witnessed my own son, as a young teenager (with all that he was going through on his own, and all that he was going through as a result of my own waywardness) started to go down a very wrong path. I was very clear, and very short and to the point, that there were 3 rules in my house. Live by them, and live well. Defy them, and you will be gone. Military school, jail, whatever. Your choice. The rules: 1) Do nothing illegal under this roof, 2) Do nothing immoral under this roof, and 3) Do nothing to harm anyone who lives under this roof. Abide by those rules, and you are welcome. Defy them and you are gone. Period. He KNEW that I meant what I said--for the GOOD of all. Not necessary, not going to be a huge amount of turmoil and hand-wringing and guilt and agony. Simply, live right and stay. Live wrong and be at the mercy of a cruel world. The truth is that once a person reaches reasonable understanding in/of Life, you cannot care more about the outcome he produces than he does, or events and results in his life than he does, or what is wrong in his life will predominate. Sometimes, we simply will not be tamed until we submit. My thoughts and experiences anyway.

Yes, sometimes it is right to simply pause, pray, and trust. Am so glad it worked out for you! Meanwhile, Jim, share your love of Boxers. Never had any, but what handsome, wonderful dogs they are!