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Ive had my 300b now for 6 months or so, only 50 hr on them. If i believe what i read online, they arent broke in yet. I hope not, since perhaps i had expected..more. Expectations, my fault. Maybe its jist the way the 300b is. My only other experience is JJ, GL, and Emission Labs XLS I bought the XLS when i got tired of waiting for the WE production to start back up. 2 weeks later...yea. As a result, both the WE and EML have too few hours for me to really know. Ive stuck some 45 mono blocks in there for a while, then went to the Krell, so just need to leave well enough alone for a while till things settle.

Im a bit sick...dang bug bit me pretty hard.

5 years

I did try contact through facebook. Maybe check the "message request" folder. I will shooot a pm here also. Thank you, Charles

Im in the market for some xovers. Im not looking for reduced cost.

Interesting. Then original? Script is identical. These are black plastic, front and back are white.

Picked up a pair of 1959 ish Khorns, and this emblem was stuck behind the grill between the grill and the frame. Never seen it before, wondeing if it was authentic. Did upload picture

I run a 2" driver in mine but did not have to modify the cabinets.

I sold a pair a couple years ago, not thinking i would need them. Oops.

Need a set a Belle mids, metal. Think they are the k500, feel free to set me straight if i am wrong. I live in Washington State.

Would they do that simply knowing its a sore subject for many who have been around a while?

I dont care about JBL. I care about the Heritage line of Klipsch. I had no idea RF7lll and New Heritage displayed a "Made in USA" badge. Since it has to have a certain percentage of American made parts to claim this, its good to know that this post is not misleading. I must have misinterpreted the above.

To quote the Klipsch web site "designed and assembled in the USA" There are too many non USA parts to state "Made in USA" Change in parameters? Semantics? Splitting hairs? To each their own. Its too sore of a subject for many that they (Klipsch)cant in fact claim MADE IN USA.

I dont agree that they are "Easy to sand back to raw birch" The only saving grace it restoring back to birch would be if they did a crappy job. Even then, its no "easy sanding" on that front edge or any other deeper poor if you value the thickness of the birch layer. So, i chemical strip first. I also could care less who is the orig owner or not. Its stated so much, as though it matters. Some owners treat gear like crap. For me, the price would be to high unless i wanted black, and felt like repainting. Which, if i needed a pair...may happen. Cant think of too many speakers i would rather have at 550.00 price point. But, they are not for everyone, and not for everyone's chosen source material. My 2 cents.

Good evening group, I Picked up a pair of top hats, not sure how they got to be alone. While i have the Belle, and have had Khorn and Lascala in the past, the Belle (modified 2" mid horn) and Cornwall are my current. I see a few sets of numbers on these, one set for the horns, and i think one the top of the lable may be a serial for the system not sure. Ive browsed the serial number data but wanted someone to state the likely year for me as well, as im a bit confused. Tops are matched walnut, and they do have the spacer on the bottoms of them. K55 v mids. Any help in identifying the era appreciated to help confirm my findings. As well as any idea what i might do with these without a bass bin. 1. I wont be making one 2. Ive had the Khorn and loved it, but its gone and i dont want another set. So im looking for suggestions on how to implement these WITHOUT using the stock bins. Thank you all for your time,

Picked up a pair of top hats, not sure how they got to be alone. While i have the Belle, and have had Khorn and Lascala in the past, the Belle (modified 2" mid horn) and Cornwall are my current. I see a few sets of numbers on these, one set for the horns, and i think one the top of the lable may be a serial for the system not sure. Ive browsed the serial number data but wanted someone to state the likely year for me as well, as im a bit confused. Tops are matched walnut, and they do have the spacer on the bottoms of them. K55 v mids. Any help in identifying the era appreciated to help confirm my findings. As well as any idea what i might do with these without a bass bin. 1. I wont be making one 2. Ive had the Khorn and loved it, but its gone and i dont want another set. So im looking for suggestions on how to implement these WITHOUT using the stock bins. Thank you all for your time, Charles

Note: the ONLY thing left of the Belle that's avail is the frames seen here. Shipping would be from Bremerton Wa. 98312 at an additional cost, badges seen are included (plastic) These are from my current Belle, which I've modified. Been hanging onto these should i decide to return to stock, though never will. Cloth is orig, and in ex condition. These Belle are 1978 i believe. I could check via the serial if its important. More pics upon request. Price is 150 plus shipping. Paypal friends and family check or MO accepted.

Tractrix porting? No one I'm aware of. I've been keeping an eye out for sure. I've heard the port itself is some kind of ring add on. I look forward to actually seeing it, and hearing what it can do. The tractrix mid horn, and mumps though, that's been around a long time as I'm sure you know. I did read on the facebook Klipsch about the product demo of the New Heritage line, and I think if there that would have worth some airline miles to hear. I had no idea there was an identical voicing between the New Heritage though. Given the size of the horn in the Klipschorn/Lascala that sounds quite a feat for the Heresy. Meaning similar tone but not output? I dont really understand all the xover stuff, I just install what my wallet provides and see if I like it. Sounds like I might be pissing up a rope modifying my CW 1. But, it's a bit less expensive, and they will voice well with my Belle. I'm leaving the Khorn stock accept the xover. Perhaps in time the New Heritage line will be complete. For now there seems to be only 1 missing from the new production. Come to think of it, it's the only one without a version 2 even? The Belle?

Plausible deniability that is does! And from what I've read here over the years, and witnessed via my limited personal interaction with select diy guys, they dont want credit anyway. They just want what I think PWK wanted? A clean accurate loudspeaker. I dont get out much, and dont post much, so I may not word myself in a way that's fluid. I simply felt and tried to relay that since it's clear to me the DIY group does influence, and Klipsch does pay attention, that from a sales perspective I thought it might be cool to see stock NEW models up against orig modified models. Either it would sway the diehard orig. Herritage owners over to new models, or just do nothing but tell me I'm not crazy for loving my own modded. What im learning is this passion on both sides seems to run REAL deep, and im coming to an understanding through this thread that modified (I dont say upgraded) Klipsch and Stock Klipsch shall remain independent of one another. Clauden you and your posts through the years have been an inspiration and a guideline. I mean no I'll intent to Klipsch, stock or DIY. I am simply trying to make my way through a host of choices avail. I do like to mess with stuff which is a curse at times. I've appriciated all the comments whether or not I agree or like. You've all been helpful.

I look forward to auditioning a pair. But is seems it cant happen until some years go by and they turn up locally. I can wait.

Not sure what or how that can be Claud. I've used your mods on my super Heresy and others. I'm entitled to think how I think. I'm allowed to call it like I see it and so are you. I've got stock Khorns, modified Belle, stock Cornwall, Shoer Heresy, and love and hated many Klipsch over 30 years. Not sure what makes a troll, or a hater, I like what I like and I will modify it to get there. I can see that without the DIY group here, there would be no CW4 at all. Its just a simple observation. It's not hate or troll or anything else.

Yes, we can blah blah blah alright. After all, that's certainly where the ideas are BORN. Certainly glad they are still around to implement those ideas and iron out the "mumps"

Exactly. Which is why years ago many found the 2"throat in Lascala Belle ect so lovely in the years gone by I would imagine. As well as the multitude of threads from years past on puting the chorus mid in the Cornwall 1 and 2. I'm glad Klipsch seems to pay attention to this forum and implement the ideas that were propagated here into the new designs.

Until I get a chance to set a CW4 down next to my Belle, then I wont know which I will prefer. 1. That still wont make one better than the other 2. For anyone to say so without having DONE SO, is inaccurate. The CW is still designed to be DIFFERENT. With improvements upon ITSELF (it's own desighn) It not designed to be better than the other Herratige models. They are all meant to provide a different use and flavor depending on the APPLICATION. Just like they were back in the 50's.

I guess my main point, to over simplify is accuracy of statements. A comparison of CW, Heresy, Lascala and Forte to me means little. One thing that's never changed about these designs (much) is the freq coverage. Meaning, since the Lascala wasnt actually designed for 2 channel audio back then, thennit still isnt. It was a center, and used as public address. Of course the CW may be PREFERRED , as it goes lower, and is more IDEAL for 2 channel audio, but that does not make it BETTER. They are still simply doing what they are designed to do. Using a speaker outside that parameter doesnt make it bad. Augment the Lascala and provide the lower freq that are missing or why compare? Same for the Heresy. Why even compare a Heresy to any if them? True, I've got altered Belle. Do I think they are "better" than anything else? They arent even better than my little James bookshelf. They dont have to be, they arent in the same class to compare. Because I personally PREFER one model over another doesnt make it BETTER, especially when I compare inappropriately. A MFSL lp is not BETTER than a 128kb mp3 file... At playing music while riding my bike. Its application, and preference. All my long winded blahs blahs aside, I would love to be in a position to hear all these and decide if I prefer the sound of a new model over my own altered orig, but I dont have the luxury. I've got a sneaking suspicion that since Klipsch themselves is here in this forum, and so is the builders of our boutique stuff, that what in the new CW is a combination of BOTH works. Of one thing I can be certain without hearing the CW4 I would likely prefer them hands down over my current model 1. Because, I know for a fact I prefer a 2' throat and tractrix design over the orig. Still , it wont make it "better" than The CW 2 as it does exactly what it was designed to do. Sit between 2 widely spaced Khorns. Accurate statement. The 4 is redesigned with 2 channel audio in mind, independent from the Khorn.