ssctrojan1980 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 jc... how do you think a triple cabinet would sound?... also i am interested in building a center channel cabinet that is not stacked like the jub but like a jub cut in half and set side by side. This center channel could be like a big piece of an intertainment center that your tv would set on but underneath the tv is a couple of hard hitting 12's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 How's about this... A double wide LaScala (2 drivers if intriguing?) put side to side... with a K510 somehow sandwiched between them for use as a full signal center channel? (just throwing ideas on the wall) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssctrojan1980 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 would the lascala be too tall for a tv stand though?.... how tall are they?. I might try to sketch a drawing out and put it on here. If jwc could put his on drawing on here i would love to see it. i know i could cut the jub in half and stack it side by side. but the trick is to build it all 1 piece and no one would know that it was a speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I don't know exact dimensions but the bass bin of a LaScala is essentially 2x2x2 (give or take some adjustments) I'm not talking about a full LaScala so the entire top section could be lopped off which would lower the height. I sure don't know enough about this stuff to talk sense, I just like the idea of a LaScala (Jubescala) between my Jubilees but have the stand issue to think about. This is why I was thinking on going with the smaller horn and trying to fit it in between the two halves. I presume that a single laScala would probably suffice for my real needs... just rip out the upper horns and replace the K400 with a K510 My wife will confirm to you that I usually have 53,509,271 bad ideas to every good one... [:^)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Do you have a size restriction? What kinda shape are you looking at? Rectangle box say 30 w x 24 d x ~26 H? How would you incorporate the HF section with a TV on top? The triple 12 is a beast. I have it on paper. Can't get through a single door though. Doesn't necessarily have to be K31's either. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hey Trojan, I think you should start giving them away for free and charging $1,850.00 for shipping.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefluffy Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I would be interested in seeing the triple woofer bass bin. I could only imagine the kind of output you could get from that sort of a monster. It seems JCs mind is always coming up with new creations. I am also inrigued by the center channel idea. That would be an awesome center channel. Interesting thinking indeed ssctrojan. I do think that this thread should NOT have been entitled jub knockoff argument. The previous thread was locked for a reason.. We should do our best to keep the discussion away from that to prevent this thread being locked. Instead make this thread about these other two topics, the triple driver bass bin and the center channel concept. Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invidiosulus Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Just use a full size jub thingy and an acoustically transparent projection screen. 2 LS would be really easy to build and use as a center. You could get a nice slab of hardwood to put on top and make some grilles and nice feet and end up with something kind of looking like an old radio console. The old radio console from hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invidiosulus Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Something like this maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollar bill Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Hmmmmm a Jub Bin cut in half, what a great idea![] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Here is the center bass bin I scratched up last year or two years ago....can't remember. About 25" wide x 26.5" tall x 20" deep. 80Hz horn 1/4 space with two 12" woofers. There is another version that has one 12" woofer and has a place to put a top horn in the middle. That one has a little compromise to it but would look cool. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssctrojan1980 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 i like that... i just wondering if you should cover the horn where you don't even know its a speaker other than the grill covers...? Also here is a question. Jwc if we did a 3 woofer bin, would that jack with you ohms.? i thought of that earlier and i don't know the answer to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 yes......you would have ~2 ohms at certain frequencies. Not for the weak hearted amps. That triple doohicky is a 33Hz 1/8 space horn (jub is 38Hz). Ext dimensions.......about 48" wide, 30" deep, and 41.5" total height. The attempt was to smoke an MWM (40Hz 1/2 space) in the home with a smaller footprint. Impedance similar to MWM. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssctrojan1980 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 so then it would still be ok?... i think i might get started on this here in a few days.. i also have 2 spare 15s.. they are the replacements for khorn... could i used them? i will put a sketch on here later today and give an idea of what i am thinking maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 The diagram I posted is a smaller bass bin cabinet used for a center. 2 12" woofers. 15" wouldn't fit. 15" woofers won't fit in my triple 12" cabinet either. 15" won't fit in a jubelike bin either. If you modify the bass bin to accomidate the 15"....that will change the flares significantly and would require a new design. I understand your drawing......so your looking at a width of greater than 80"? jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssctrojan1980 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 would this horn idea work?... putting a midrange horn in the middle.. and put it vertical...and then setting tweeter on top. Someone told me that Klipsch makes on of these already. a big center chanel speaker that looks like a tv stand. is this correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssctrojan1980 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 i was just throwing the 15s out there. the 12s are probably better. i don't think it would be over 80 would it?. a jublike speaker is about 32 inches maybe.. so 64 inches.. plus a midrange horn of 12 inches maybe... so yes close to 80 inches.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 jubelike or jube is greater than 40" width. The front panel is over 20" wide and each mouth exit is close to 9 inches. So yes......greater than 40".......so two side by side is over 80". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj01 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I'm probably missing something here, but why wouldn't a single woofer design work? Would it not be balanced with the midrange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 You could make that work.....you would just have to balance the output. With one woofer....small throat....would require a long horn to get down to 80Hz in 1/4 space or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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