CJPennell Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I am installing two in-ceiling speakers in a 9 foot ceiling and I have to space the speakers about 13 feet apart. I wanted to place them closer for optimal sound but could not. I am concerned now that I will hear one more than the other. Can anyone advise if there are in-ceiling speakers out there that can address this so I have a room filling sound. Thanks CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 welcome CJ to the forum, i think you will be fine. i installed them in my kids house in 2 separate rooms and it sounds great. room filling sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I am installing two in-ceiling speakers in a 9 foot ceiling and I have to space the speakers about 13 feet apart. I wanted to place them closer for optimal sound but could not. I am concerned now that I will hear one more than the other. Can anyone advise if there are in-ceiling speakers out there that can address this so I have a room filling sound. Thanks CJ Can you turn the gain down on one and up on the other to balance it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPennell Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 No I dont have that option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizop Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 if your receiver won't balance the gains, you'll need to make sure that the wiring to each speaker is the same length even if one is closer to the receiver than the other. if one has a shorter wire than the other, it will be louder. I have Synergy speakers in my ceilings. in the rec room I have the round model as surrounds and in the great room I have the rectangular in wall model mounted in the ceiling both as surrounds and rear surrounds. I think the model numbers are KHC-6 and KHW-5. you can adjust the direction that the center cone points (I'm sure that's right on the round ones and I think that's right on the rectangular ones too) so you'd point the one that is nearer you straight down or even away from you and point the further one angled toward you. Klipsch actually suggests pointing the cones at the side walls so the sound bounces off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 if your receiver won't balance the gains, you'll need to make sure that the wiring to each speaker is the same length even if one is closer to the receiver than the other. if one has a shorter wire than the other, it will be louder. Wow. So how many dB do you drop per foot of wire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 No I dont have that option What amp are you using and how are they wired? Describe your signal chain from your source to your speaker and we might be able to figure a work around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted March 19, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 19, 2012 if your receiver won't balance the gains, you'll need to make sure that the wiring to each speaker is the same length even if one is closer to the receiver than the other. if one has a shorter wire than the other, it will be louder. [bs] couldn't help it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 if your receiver won't balance the gains, you'll need to make sure that the wiring to each speaker is the same length even if one is closer to the receiver than the other. if one has a shorter wire than the other, it will be louder. couldn't help it Spoil sport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I guess if the wire was really tiny.......you MIGHT notice a drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizop Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I guess if the wire was really tiny.......you MIGHT notice a drop. sure there are limits. you probably won't notice that you have one front speaker 2' farther from the receiver than the other because the run is short enough that you won't have much drop anyway. but run two ceiling speakers with 18 guage wire and have one be a 50' run and the other only 20' and you're taking a chance. perhaps getting good wire from mono-price instead of the RadioShack stuff will avoid the problem but I prefer to cut both wires the length needed for the longer run just to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted March 19, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 19, 2012 Nothing personal when I said [bs] I just thought it was [bs]. I am not an electrical engineer or any [bs] like it and don't really pay attention when these things are talked about here, but still think it's [bs]. NO [bs] I'm just giving you a hard time. [] but I still think it's [bs] Watch, now someone its going to tell me using more math than I care to see that my comment is [bs] So I will put a picture to throw off the engineer type. [6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Make a tight coil out of the excess wire to one speaker.... That would have more impact. You aren't going to make a delay out of longer wire on one side or the other. An increase in length will change the load on your amp, but 18 gauge is only a bit over 6 ohms for a 1000 feet. Having one side 20 feet and the other 50 really won't be much of a problem. [] Elden is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I guess if the wire was really tiny.......you MIGHT notice a drop. sure there are limits. you probably won't notice that you have one front speaker 2' farther from the receiver than the other because the run is short enough that you won't have much drop anyway. but run two ceiling speakers with 18 guage wire and have one be a 50' run and the other only 20' and you're taking a chance. perhaps getting good wire from mono-price instead of the RadioShack stuff will avoid the problem but I prefer to cut both wires the length needed for the longer run just to be safe. i've said it before, and I'll say it again: your sonic mirroing of the temporal sine wave between each binding post will be off by around 1 petasecond per foot. UNLESS of course, these are platinum coated diamond copper wires, in which case the eletricity simply won't flow at all until they are in a synchronous matched pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Doesn't the signal travel at or near the speed of light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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