swandivr Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 My apology in advance for a stupid question.I have been looking in vain for a pair of Forte IIs.I just missed a pair three days ago that were in excellent condition for $500. I then was offered a pair of Forte'IIs that have had the drivers replaced form a pair of Chorus IIs.They also have been internally braced,and dampening material has been added to the interior to further deaden the cabinet. The internal wires have also been upgraded. My question is whether this is an advisable upgrade. I would prefer to wait and hope to find a good pair of unadulterated Forte IIs,as the pair I am being offered are priced at $600,as opposed to the $500 price for the pair I missed. Anyone have some advice? (or have a pair of Forte IIs they would part with?) Thanks...Ted This message has been edited by swandivr on 06-02-2002 at 06:32 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikekid Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 Ted, wait till you find a nice pair that haven't been fooled with. The ForteII are FANTASTIC speakers STOCK!!!!! Be patient, you will find a pair. Take care Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandivr Posted June 2, 2002 Author Share Posted June 2, 2002 Thanks Mike for the advice,my first reaction was to just wait.However,I have been looking for some time now,and my feeling is that SOMEONE-SOMEWHERE-has my Forte's,and it may be someone on this board.So,if you are reading this message,and have my Forte's...GIVE'UM UP!! This message has been edited by swandivr on 06-02-2002 at 08:11 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckears Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 OK, swanny: I'll give up my Fortes, if you can find me a pair of oiled oak Cornwalls for a straight swap . Honestly, I do have to concur with Mikekid: the originals (even the first series, no II behind the name) are some of the finest loudspeakers in their class that I have ever heard; the only other non-Klipsch speakers that have compared to them (to my ears) came from a little known Australian company named Duntech: I heard a pair of wall-hanging speakers by them years ago (supplemented by a coffee-table-size subwoofer by the same company), and it set a sonic standard that I have been working to match ever since. ------------------ Klipsch Fortes, Oiled Oak Klipsch KLF-C7 Center Channel Klipsch RS-3 surrounds McCormack DNA-1 Power Amp McCormack TLC Pre-Amp Harmon Kardon AVR520 Receiver Sony 5-disc changer NHT SA3 Subwoofer Amp Hsu TN1220 Subwoofer Old Akai cassette Deck Nordost Solar Wind interconnects Nordost Moonglo Digital Coax Kimber 4TC Speaker Cable (Future upgrades to include): A big-*** HDTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandivr Posted June 2, 2002 Author Share Posted June 2, 2002 OK Folks!! Who's got my set of Oiled Oak Cornwalls??..C'mon give um up!!! I am well aware of the Forte's great sound,if I didn't care,I could get by with some Technics This message has been edited by swandivr on 06-03-2002 at 12:22 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 I'VE got a new pair of Cornwall's in oiled oak for trade if you can find me a pair of mint Klipschorns. Why do I feel soooo dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandivr Posted June 3, 2002 Author Share Posted June 3, 2002 Yikes!Now it's Klipschorns!Have a little mercy on me! Maybe I should go back to the original question.Would it really be so bad to be the only guy in town with a pair of Fhorus IIs? Nah...I'll wait for a pair of "stockers". This message has been edited by swandivr on 06-03-2002 at 03:41 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BobG Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 Hmmm. Those Forte's sound familiar. I wonder if they were the ones I owned? Did those mods. Only the tweeter was changed out for a Chorus tweeter as the bigger magnet seemed to offer better driver control. Had to be padded back to match sensitivity of the other Forte drivers. Are they black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandivr Posted June 3, 2002 Author Share Posted June 3, 2002 Actually yes they are black!I thought the amazing Karnac had retired. Further,the seller is from California if that is of any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhawk92 Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 Swan- Hold out for those unadulterated Forte I or II. As Mike said, you can't do much more to make either of those speakers better, or even the Quartet/Chorus. I have Forte IIs and parents have Forte I, II, and now a pair of Chorus IIs and love them all. I think I prefer the FII over the original, but just by a nose. I haven't done a side-by-side between FII and CII in a long while, but soon, that will be a reality thanks to Mike Lindsay. From my original exposure, the FII has just a bit more low end, but the CII has more upper end presence. It's too bad we can't call these babies "Heritage." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandivr Posted June 4, 2002 Author Share Posted June 4, 2002 Thanks for the advice,I will continue my search for a pair of "stockers",but it will be difficult because between you and your parents,you seem to have cornered the market..LOL Just kidding,I'll find a pair eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 There are some mods out there for hot-rodding Forte's and Chorus, such as putting sand in the base, upgrading the wires, upgrading the x-overs by using new, higher quality parts, etc... They have been posted in the past on this board by aabernathy. If you are interested, search for posts by him. Doug ------------------ My System This message has been edited by dougdrake on 06-04-2002 at 01:56 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluless Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 swan, FYI - saw these on e-bay this morining Starting off at a mere $625. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1357832274 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandivr Posted June 5, 2002 Author Share Posted June 5, 2002 Thanks Clue: Saw those earlier.I have never tried E-Bay,but there is always the first time.Did they start a little high to begin with?Most of what I have seen have been elsewhere,and seemed to start out a little lower than that.I wish I hadn't missed that set for $500...Shoot! I have also noticed that there are no bids yet,but it is early and I will watch to see where it goes.If it gets too steep,I will stay quiet.I appreciate your informing me, Thank You!! This message has been edited by swandivr on 06-05-2002 at 02:32 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerohm Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 quote: Originally posted by swandivr: I wish I hadn't missed that set for $500...Shoot! I stated this before, but I think it is worth repeating. Let's ASSUME that the "out of production" speakers you desire are truly in MINT condition. Could you spend $625, or even $845, on some brand new "in production" speaker today, that you would be satisfied with? If so, that is the path you SHOULD go. I think that too many people seek that elusive "great deal". Well they ARE out there, but NOT that easy to come by. The last pair of Forte I's that I bought cost me $675. They WERE in absolutely MINT condition. I have very little fear that I will not be able to get that much, if I should decide to sell them. I AM sure that $675 will NOT buy new speakers of the same build quality at a retail shop. If cosmetics are not as big an issue, the market opens up quite a bit, but then don't necessarily expect them to hold their value as well ... simply because there are more on the market! The biggest concern that I have, is the possibility of me inspecting, and picking up the speakers myself. Shipping charges can seem extreme($175), and insurance will not ease the loss of a "well preserved specimen". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 If those Forte II's are in as good shape as claimed, the $625 is worth it, IMO. The BIN price is a bit high, but given the location of the seller, the $625 might be good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandivr Posted June 5, 2002 Author Share Posted June 5, 2002 Thanks for the advice guys!The combination of two issues do concern me. 1.Not being able to see the speakers "up close and personal". 2.Shipping.This is a big consideration,not only the expense,but the possibility of damage (as Jerohm mentioned).I am retired now,but was a freight driver before I retired,and I know firsthand how damage can occur,even when handled by professionals. So,it comes down to whether or not to "take a chance". I would rather find a pair in my area,but sadly they have been scarce lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 jhawk I shouldnt say this, but i caint help myself!!!! HERE GOES Only the heritage have a name! Kornerhorn, La Scalas, Belle, Cornwall,Heresy, Chorus, Forte, the models, that arent heritage are HERE GOES KG, KLF, RC,RS, Do you follow me? This is the only true answer, to what ive asked and argued with, for a month! Who told me this Here Goes SSSHHHHHHHHHH! LOL Only if the person says so himself! Regards Jim This message has been edited by Jim Cornell on 06-05-2002 at 11:51 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickey Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Jim, Very well stated in all regards! C ------------------ My System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Well thank you kind sir. Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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