HoustonIII Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Just picked up another SW350. My current setting for my other sub is: AV Tuner is set at 80Hz. On the sub itself it is set at 80hz , volume at 3/4 and phase at 0. Its been sounding good so I put the new one with the same settings as the older one and placed it on the same wall but other side of the entertainment center. Any good advice for this from someone with dual sub settings etc is greatly appreciated. Just found an answer maybe online. Keep both subs set on bypass and put the Tuner setting at 80hz. Volume still the same and sounds okay. Still hoping someone on this site that knows more than myself will put this matter to rest and give advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 What speakers and avr/amp are you using? This will allow others to help if they know a little more about your system. Is this fore HT and music? For my HT, I set all speakers to small, avr xo is at 80, phase at 0 on the subs, subs are level matched at 73-75 db individually before running autocalibration, and the sub xo is turned all the way up.Your volume may be a little high at 3/4, never go beyond that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIII Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 OPPS! AVTuner: Yamaha RX V471 5.1 Fronts: 2-KF30's. Center: 1- C30 Surrounds: 2- KF20's on 16 inch stands. Subs: 2- SW350. Yes it is used for both HT/music. My center is at small even though its a C3, but all the others are set at large. When I ran a YPOA it kept trying to make the F20's small, but I just changed it back. Those F20's are far from small and I the F30's are beasts! What is an IMO and xo mean? I dont understand the terminology? My subs are set on bypass, but the setting goes all the way to 150hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 What is an IMO and xo mean? I dont understand the terminology? They are abreviations. IMO = In My Opinion XO = crossover My subs are set on bypass, but the setting goes all the way to 150hz. Set the controls on the sub to bypass or it's highest LFE(120Hz, 150Hz, etc.) setting. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Is the phase adjustment an adjustable knob or just a 0-180 switch? Do you have an SPL meter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIII Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Dont have a meter but put the subs as everyone advised (bypass) and my tuner is at 80hz. So is keeping my other speakers that I listed earlier set on large a logical move based on their size? Though as stated also my center C3 is set on small. Thats the only one, the rest are on large. Fronts: KF30's and my Surround/Rears: KF20's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Set everything to small regardless of the physical size of the speaker. If you don't, the speakers will get a full range signal and possibly give you phase issues with your subs. Setting them to small allows your receivers crossover to filter the low stuff from your speakers and sends it to your sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 SPL meters are cheap, if you're going to be getting into HT, you need to pick one up. You can tweek your individual channel settings and check to be sure your subs aren't cancelling each other out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 What's the sign in your avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIII Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Its a small town going through MO that I saw called Houstonia. Population 202, hahahahah! Its also my first name (Houston) Thought of stopping and claiming it, show my license and crown myself king for a short while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIII Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Okie doke, I get what your saying and will roll with that thought. Just seems weird though with speakers that size, thats all... Im guessing the volume at about 3/4 on the subs was ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhenry Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I have RF-7's and prefer them set to large. Everybody says to set them to small but I don't like it that way- it doesn't sound nearly as "full"- like it's missing something. I say do what sounds best to you and forget what's "proper set up standards". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 If you set all the speakers to large, why use a sub? Should I Set My Speakers to Large or Small?People always ask this question. The answer is very simple. If you own a subwoofer that outputs good bass sound, you should set all your speakers to SMALL. In general, if you own a subwoofer, it may be wise to set all your speakers to small for several reasons: When there is an overlap of bass sound from the front speakers and the subwoofer, you will get bloated and boomy bass. A subwoofer can play low frequencies all the way down to 20Hz or lower. Even relatively large front speakers cannot go that low. The placement of a sub in a room is the primary factor in receiving good bass sound. You cannot adjust the position of the front speakers and move them to the side or back. If the subwoofer and the front speakers play the same bass frequencies, there will be a possibility of phase cancellation of certain bass frequencies. Redirecting the bass to the subwoofer relieves the receiver/amplifier from having to work on reproducing the low frequencies and this greatly improves the headroom. If you are using the Audyssey MultEQ calibration, you will get much better bass performance because the MultEQ subwoofer filters have 8x higher resolution than the filter for other speakers People have a psycological difficulty with the word SMALL. They have spent good money on their front speakers and get insulted when the AVR sets them to SMALL. Remember that this is not a personal insult against you or your speakershttp://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=95817 LARGE = The speakers are not Bass Managed.SMALL = The speakers are Bass Managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhenry Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I have read a lot about the reasons to set the speakers to small -vs- large and I understand the reasoning. I just don't much care. I have RF-7's and two RSW-15's which are more than capable of "good bass sound" and a B&K 200.5 amplifier which has no problem with "headroom". I just prefer the way it sounds after having listened to it set to small. And that's why I set them to large. Because I like it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I just prefer the way it sounds after having listened to it set to small. And that's why I set them to large. Because I like it that way. [Y][Y] Remember guys, it is how it sounds to us in our room, and that is all that matters.[:^)][] Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 with stereo subs it is a good idea to keep the subs as close physically as practial to the main speakers as in right next to or right under.. Enjoy. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjennings2510 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I have RF-7's and prefer them set to large. Everybody says to set them to small but I don't like it that way- it doesn't sound nearly as "full"- like it's missing something. I say do what sounds best to you and forget what's "proper set up standards". [Y][Y] I have the RF-7IIs and I also experimented with large and small and yes in my setup as well large sounds way better and fuller! And while the 7s have good bass it isn't overpowering or that deep rumble in your chest bass so it blends nicely with my subs. The sound stage seemed to open up way more and they sounded way bigger....had that majestic sound.....but I also have a separate amp powering my 7s.....I understand the reasoning.....boomy bass or possibly having your AVR distort from having to work harder.....but neither applied to me or you it seems....as others have said.....follow the guidelines and see how it sounds but experiment....that's the fun thing about our hobby.....there are so many things you can change from positioning to crossover to enhancement modes etc......and they all sound different to different people.....one may like the changes while another hates it.....the guidelines are there to get you started....to get your feet wet.....and while you may be satisfied with the sound there is nothing wrong with writing down your settings and then tweaking a few things to see what sounds better.....that's what I did and that's how I got my systems setup to sound their best. My 82s also benefited from the large speaker setting.....alright I'm done blabbing [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhurd Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Try setting your tuner crossover to 120 as well. You may be missing some bass notes with it set at 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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