Moderators Youthman Posted November 1, 2013 Moderators Share Posted November 1, 2013 Well, I spoke to Wake Junkie tonight and he has got a crazy thought rolling around in my brain. 5.1 or 7.1? He has a good point. I just picked up a Sherbourn 72100A (200 x 7) amp and I just happen to have a complete RF-7ii System that I picked up a few weeks ago. I've unhooked the Parasound and am about to head back into the HT to remove the RSW-15 since the cables for the surround backs were tucked underneath the wooden floor that sits beneath it. Figure I'll hook up the amp to all 7 cables and then place the 2nd pair of RS-62ii's on my back seats to do some demo to see how much, if any they make as 7.1 vs 5.1. I'll be listing my Parasound HCA2205a (220 x 5) amp and have already listed my RS-62 (original version) so the wife will be glad when that money comes in. Just wanted to get some feedback from my fellas to see what would you do. I know when I originally tried 7.1 with only a receiver, I was underwhelmed to say the least. The Yamaha RX-V1800 (130 x 7) dropped to a measly 55 watts with all 7 channels driven. Now that I have 7 monoblocks with 200 watts each, I don't think power will be an issue. The other issue was that I had the surround backs mounted above the door frame which is around 8' high with the tweeter being close to the ceiling at almost 10'. I just rarely heard them. Mounting them at same height as the side surrounds or slightly lower would definitely help them to be heard plus with the added power, they would definitley be heard. Lastly I'm wondering will I hear $600 worth a difference (which is what I have the RS-62ii listed at) by adding surround backs? Guess I won't know until I get it hooked up and do some testing. Wish me luck and let me know what you would do. Here is a pick of the room showing the previous RS-62's mounted. I mounted the RS-62ii's tonight in their place and I LOVE the rounded grills. They look much more modern than the triangle shaped RS-62's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Cut to th' chase & go 11.2...not like you don't have th' speakers to swing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 You have a new amp with 7 channel, why not have some fun. That room is certainly large enough. You can even entertain 6.1, lol. Have a great evening trying different configurations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 2, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2013 Sancho, I sold the RB81ii locally since I had no use for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 2, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2013 I wish my forum buddies lived close enough to help me try it all out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Your idea to try the 62ii should work; I'm sure you have some 7.1 brd in your library to try. I like The Sound of Music, as does the wife. Dances with Wolves, Cars2, & Toy Story 3 are the others I can think of, off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Have you thought about flipping your surrounds upside down to get the tweeters closer to your head? I would go all the way to 11.1! I was at 9.1 but I just sold all my speakers and, my new setup is only 5.0 (till my sub comes in). I will slowly be moving to 11.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 2, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2013 My surrounds are RS-62ii. They would be the same if I flipped them upside down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 2, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2013 Unfortunately I can't do any real testing tonight as my wife is asleep. The Sherbourn is extremely quiet. I have to get within 4 inches to hear anything from the speakers. Can't wait till tomorrow to see what she can do driving 7 speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) Good to bring the wife in anyway. She's gonna love the 7.1! My family can sleep a lightning storm. Helps that my den is 3 feet below the rest of the house. Edited November 2, 2013 by sanchopanza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 You mention 600$ worth of difference because that's what your asking. But how about think what you actually have in them? I have 4 of the ks-525's and I love it. I'd trade the surround backs for the kl-525's if I could straight up but not gonna come out of pocket for em. I have lots of 7.1 movies and can easily pick out stuff that comes from behind me over what comes from my side speakers. No question about it. I'd keep em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Even when the Surround Back is simulated from 5.1, I like being, well, being surrounded. But, those AMPs are a great idea for long term. With them in place, one could afford to swap AVRs fairly often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 2, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2013 You mention 600$ worth of difference because that's what your asking. But how about think what you actually have in them? And that is precisely Wake's point and thus the reason for me considering keeping them. Everything is hooked up, now I just have to do some A/B testing tomorrow to see if I can hear a difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 2, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2013 The great thing about the Sherbourn is it's got enough power and channels that I will never feel the need to upgrade the amp itself unless it dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 That's why I bought my sherbourn. At 350x7 and 550x7 at 4 ohms!!! I don't know that I would ever own speakers that would need more than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 And mine came with a 10 year warranty. It was a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 & even if you went to 11.2, surely a Decent AVR could drive 4 speakers, like Heights & Wides to sufficient levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted November 2, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2013 And mine came with a 10 year warranty. It was a no brainer. Yep and bartering for mine was a no brainer as well. Sancho, yes, you are correct unless I ever go back to separates. Then a second amp would be needed to move to an 11.X system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) WakeJunkie needs at least a 2 channel amp to drive his new RF-7s. Not that I have any experience with either. Dang, I love this New Forum! Edited November 2, 2013 by sanchopanza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I'd go bookshelves in the rear if I had them as opposed to the surround series. The biggest difference you'll notice going from 5.1 to 7.1 is when watching concert videos as opposed to movies, at least it was for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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