bp-plickner Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Hi Folks Long time lurker, first post. I am looking into upgrading my mid range horns. I found Volti V-Trac and Dave's Fastrac horns as 2 options. I have read good things about the Fastrac, but not much about the V-Trac, The V-Track is almost twice the price of the Fastrac. The 2 differences I have seen are 1. the V-Trac's k-55 mounting set up and 2. the Fastrac is assembled with screws where the V-Track is not. Has any one had an opportunity to listen to both of these horns? Do you think the difference in construction techniques justifies the difference in price and does the price difference offer a substantially audible difference? Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I have the Volti version which was a substantial improvement over old stock components to my ears but I have not heard Dave's Fastrac so I can 't help you with the comparison. I have used both ALK Universals and now have the Extremes in all three Belles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp-plickner Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Are you using the k-55 drivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Are you using the k-55 drivers? BMS mids and Beyma tweeters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatever55 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I have a set of Belles and upgraded with ALK's trachorn and Beyna tweeters. Best money I ever spent period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Other than testimonials, I have not seen much in the way of well-done measurements on those two options. They may be out there, but I am ignorant of them. If you want a turn key solution, make sure that a crossover has been designed for them for your specific application (with measurements, of course). Another option, which is not turn key, is to replace the mid and tweeter sections with a Klipsch K-510 horn. That could sound very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp-plickner Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 PrestonTom My crossovers are ALK universals that I Built. From what I've read I am planing on using my k-55 midrange driver with an adapter, which has me leaning towards the Volti V-Trac because Greg Roberts at Volti has spent some time getting the k-55 to work well with his V-Trac. I also want to keep my old beat up belles looking stock.... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David H Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 ALK Universal crossover, should work well with whatever you choose. Enjoy, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 PrestonTom My crossovers are ALK universals that I Built. From what I've read I am planing on using my k-55 midrange driver with an adapter, which has me leaning towards the Volti V-Trac because Greg Roberts at Volti has spent some time getting the k-55 to work well with his V-Trac. I also want to keep my old beat up belles looking stock.... Thanks Your application is a Belle and a K-55 driver, was the Volti designed with that in mind? I always get concerned about a one-size fits all solution. However, I have not specifically worked with these components. Is there someone with measuring equipment and experience who has worked with these combinations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David H Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 The Volti horn was designed specifically for a Belle, however was designed for use with a 2 inch driver, thus the adapter. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I think there is a difference between being here just to promote your product and promoting your product through education while being here. Dave makes better horns. Period. I would not buy a Volti horn. Dave also provides an adapter. I don't know Dave, maybe you should charge more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp-plickner Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I went with the Volti V-Trac. The thought and time that went into the adapter sold me. Plus if I ever get the cash together I can try a 2" Driver. Yeah I know that I could do that with the Fastrac also, but that's what it came down to for me the adapter. Peace Edited May 10, 2014 by bp-plickner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I literally think this is the first I have ever heard someone choose anything audio because of an adapter........................... Not that your choice is good or bad, both builders have put in huge amounts of time into horn design, and I have never heard a bad report on either one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Curious as to why you would have been comparing the V-trac to the Fastrac instead of the Eliptrac 400? Edited May 10, 2014 by DeanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Ever notice how you never get a bad report on anything around here? Maybe I should let you field my phone calls for a while. The rate of expansion for the adapters isn't correct, and this area of the throat is the most critical. As usual, we get no measurements. Edited May 10, 2014 by DeanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdog Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Probably could have had eliptracs and a pair of JBL 2404Hs for less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David H Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I am not a big fan of the adapters either, but I also offer one as an upgrade path for the k-55. Curious as to why you would been comparing the V-trac to the Fastrac instead of the Eliptrac 400? I assume this is because the Eliptrac is setup to be used with risers on a Belle, and the op wanted the original look. Thanks for the support Dean. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David H Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Plus if I ever get the cash together I can try a 2" Driver. Yes, 2 inch horns work much better with a 2 inch driver, rather than an adapter. Save your coin and upgrade. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp-plickner Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Why the adapters as an audio decision? Well it seems to me the whole idea of changing out the stock horn of my belles is because of the distortion that I believe is caused by the geometry of the horn. So that leads me to believe the geometry of a tractrix style horn will help reduce that distortion. Right or wrong I think the volti adapter attempts to compensate the geometry for the klipsch less than 1" driver for a horn designed for a 2" driver. Maybe 6 of one and a half dozen of the other? What Dave said about the original look is true Edited May 10, 2014 by bp-plickner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Start saving for those 2" drivers... you won't be sorry! The thing about those adapters is that it cuts into your budget that could have gone towards new drivers. The K-55 is great but it just can't do what a 2" can do. Don't worry about it and enjoy... until you get the upgrade bug again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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