RayCanales Posted July 30, 2002 Author Share Posted July 30, 2002 hey there is there any way to hook up the Belles and a pair of Lascalas in Parallel maybe that will be loud enuff for me. I do have a pair of old Lascalas sitting in my living room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 You can use the Belles and La Scalas together, but you'll likely need another amp. The K-33 is a 4 ohm driver. Putting it in a basshorn raises the effective impedance to between 6 and 8 ohms. However, below the cut-off frequency of the bass horn, it is effectively 4 ohms again, Two in parallel presents a 2 ohm load to a single amp from 60 Hz, or so and below. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 First thing i did when i got in the rental car in Dallas yesterday was to set the tone controls to flat. And then "Back in Black" by AC/DC came on; not my normal fare but it sounded cool in the Mercury Grand Marquis. "Tone" sounds like a friendly term. It should be called "psycotic gain and distortion enhancer". There should be a nastier word for "klipping" as well; kind of an audio train wreck waiting to happen. Ray C., If you really have to be louder than the Belles(maybe poor for your hearing in the long term); an industrial model of speaker may be better or your needs. I have been there, doing sound for rock bands 20 years ago. I have adjusted my style to listen for fine details at moderate levels. Good Luck, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCanales Posted July 30, 2002 Author Share Posted July 30, 2002 Yep I know what you mean and I do love music at lower levels its mostly when I listen to HT that I want to crank it up and the scotch in massive amounts dont help either. once I get my Belles Fixed I will try to refrain to maybe 60% of tone 10% past the half way point which is flat and then maybe try hooking up the Belles and the KLFS together in Parallel with another amp when I really want to get crazy. ------------------ Current System Panasonic TH-50PHD3U plasma tv B&K REF 3220 B&R ST 1400II Adcom GTP830 JVC XV-SA600BK Klipsch Belles Klipsch KLFC7 Klipsch RB5 Velodyne HGS12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCanales Posted July 30, 2002 Author Share Posted July 30, 2002 also I would appreciate any ideas on how to clean up my mess of cables that I have. here is a pic of the rack and the center stuff ------------------ Current System Panasonic TH-50PHD3U plasma tv B&K REF 3220 B&R ST 1400II Adcom GTP830 JVC XV-SA600BK Klipsch Belles Klipsch KLFC7 Klipsch RB5 Velodyne HGS12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 RC, Condolences on the demise of your woofers. Every audiophools mightmare! Just so you don't feel so all alone, I normally run the bass tone control on my trusty old Sony ES i.a. at about 3db gain. I'd rather not, but in my room, my k-horns just need a little boost in the lower range to keep the mids from sticking out. I guess what I really need is a midrange tone control that I could turn down. But really - up, down - it's all relative. I think you could crank that bass all the way up without a problem, IF you go real easy on the volume. Which apparently you didn't. I think alcohol raises our tolerance to high spl's, another factor to consider when crankin' it. As to your wire problem, there's a number of possible solutions. You could get some of those cable wrap tubes at Radio Shack to keep the wires together, and then use some hold-downs to , uh, "hold-them-down" snug to the wall. Even a short section of one-inch conduit running vertically behind the speaker could really clean things up. 'Course the slickest way is to either run the wires behind the existing wall (pain in the keester!), or use furring strips or 2x studs covered in sheetrock, masonite or whatever to make a false wall just in front of the real one that you could then stuff the wires into. ------------------ JDM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnm Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Re: Wires I am a computer tech and I generally find that where circumstances dictate that wiring will be visible binding them together into a neat bundle helps -as per the suggestion above. You could use cable ties or simple twist ties to tame the tangles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDBRbuilder Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Re: getting your wires out of a tangled mass. First, take "like connections" and ensure they are separated from the "not-like connections"...IOW, don't have power cables running adjacent to speaker wire or interconnects...etc. Then take some good ole zip-ties and go to work...don't make those zip-ties TOO TIGHT on what you bundle together, though! Zip-ties have to be about the handiest little invention to hit the consumer since WD-40 and duct tape were invented!! ------------------ I can now receive private messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 I use a DBX BX-1 Power Amplifier rated at 400 watts per channel to drive my Belle's, however my tone controls are set flat. The amp runs Class A up to about 30-40 watts or so, I have run it at extreme levels (in excess of 120db) from time to time even with my 5BX-DS 5 Band Range Expander, 120X-DS Subharmonic Synthesizer and 14/10 Eq all running in the chain and never had a problem. Clean undistorted and un-clipped power will make a difference. The amplifier's power supply has to be able to keep up with the demands that are placed on it. Having the Bass set at max will significantly increase the load placed on the amplifier and the speaker. Having the subwoofers certainly will make a difference. ------------------ Living Room Sony KP-43T70 43" Television Denon AVR 3300 A/V Receiver (105W X 3)(Heresy II's (Walnut) (Add Mains) (a/d/s L300E hooked in series (Add Center) DBX BX-3MkII Power Amplifier (200W X 4) LWE-I w/Motion Feedback (Walnut) (Rears) & Infinity SM-82 (Walnut) (Side Surrounds) DBX BX-1 Power Amplifier (400W X 2 (Belle's - Oak Clear/Cane)(Mains) DBX MPA-150 Split Spectrum Mono-Block Amplifier (175 X 1) KV-4 (Center) (Black) Klipsch KSW-15 Powered Subwoofer (2) Nakamichi DVD-10 DVD/LCD/CD Player DBX DX-5 CD Player w/DAIR JVC HR-S7500U SVHS Video Cassette Recorder RCA DRD-485RG Digital Satellite Receiver DBX TX-1 AM/FM Stereo Tuner w/Shotz NR DBX 400XG Program Route Selector DBX 120X-DS Subharmonic Synthesizer/Electronic Crossover DBX 5BX-DS 5-Band Computer-Controlled Dynamic Range Controller DBX 14/10 14-Band Computerized Equalizer/RTA Analyzer/SPL Meter Panamax 1000+ Surge Protector/Line Conditioner Sega Dreamcast w/3 Controllers & VMU's/S-Video Output Bedroom Yamaha RX-900U Receiver (85W X 3) Panasonic DVD-A120U DVD Player Sony SLV-740HF Hi-Fi VCR Technics SL-DL5 DD Linear Tracking Turntable DBX DX-5 CD Player w/DAIR Pioneer CT-S88R Auto-Reverse Programable Cassette Deck DBX 200XG Program Route Selector DBX SNR-1 Single Ended Noise Reduction Unit DBX 3BX-DS 3-Band Dynamic Range Controller DBX 2015G 15 Band Per Channel Equalizer JBL T545 Loudspeakers (Mains) Cerwin Vega CS-9 (Center) Audiosource SW 6.5" Subwoofer Panasonic 20" Stereo Television Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by RayCanales: ...I didnt know whether to stop drinking my scotch or pour another even stronger one. ..... I dont want this to happen again Next Time...Just remember...Turn UP Scotch...Turn Down Volume...sit closer. Can be just as loud! Wes ------------------ KLIPSCH IS MUSICf> My Systems f>s>c> This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 08-04-2002 at 11:16 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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