joessportster Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 so I spent untold hours ripping my music lossless from my cd's I have heard about flac and it is supposed to be lossless as well, so I converted 2 albums that mean little to me and where my bitrate used to say 1411 it now ranges from 800 to approx 1000 so if this is truly lossless why am i losing rate ?? I understand that I probably can not hear any difference between 1411 and even 350 kbps however i ripped lossless for a reason I wanted exact copies of my discs and IMHO flac is not an exact copy My reason for looking at converting to flac at all was it seems to support metadata better, I am not willing to lose the bitrate so now if anyone knows which other codec's support metadata that would be great, apparently aiff and wav are / can be sketchy with there support of metadata thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 http://xiph.org/flac/faq.html#general__lowest_bitrate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 DSD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Flac is to audio what PKZip is to data. A flac file is just a compressed container. When playing a flac file, it is decompressed on-the-fly back into the original PCM audio samples ... exactly, bit-for-bit. Hence the term "lossless". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Edgar can you expand on how flac accomplishes that ? I recall reading something about flac compressing the quiet or air passages, which would tend to agree with a post I just read saying higher energy / more noise files show a higher bit rate than say low noise quieter music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 mp3's remove content and therefore the bitrate is a representation of the number of bits per second within the track. higher bitrate = more bits retained and higher quality music file. flac bitrate is more appropriately a representation of the compression ratio - quieter music has a lower bitrate than loud music, but is not representative of the recording quality. it's still lossless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 http://xiph.org/flac/faq.html#general__lowest_bitrate Informative thanks Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Edgar can you expand on how flac accomplishes that ? Here's a reasonable top-level description: http://www.pcs.cnu.edu/~fharlan/flac.html The big paragraph just before the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Thanks for the clarifications, thinking I will convert everything except my hi rez stuff, it allows me to add all the meta data right in jriver and can take my time and convert and add the data a few files at a time while I listen J river is pretty cool after you get past the learning curve Thanks again Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have been ripping flac with eac for a couple of weeks and have been very happy with it. I have some stuff from hdtracks that are higher res and can't tell the difference. At first I was disappointed of this like you were, however like I said I have not noticed a difference. So I will continue to rip my cds in flac, and if I have the option to buy in high res I will. The cost for some hi res albums off of HDtracks is the same as if I was to by a cd, so I am happy with that. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Having recently received my long awaited Pono player, I'm just beginning to get a sense of what it does and does not do. This weekend I'll post a more thorough report in Tarheel's "Neil Young's Pono" thread. Until then, I can say that everything sounds better from the Pono player; mp3, WAV, FLAC, etc. In my admittedly limited experience, the high resolution FLAC files seem to sound better than mp3s. I can't perceive a difference between the HDTracks files and the Pono files, other than the Pono files make the unit's blue light come on, but the HDTracks files do not. I plan to rip vinyl to FLAC files for storage and playback through the Pono player. I'll report the results. Edited December 14, 2014 by DizRotus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 converted 80 albums so far and seems all but 1 has come out ok, for some reason my aerosmith bootleg lost 10 tracks.....................Its all good as I have 2 backups just weird that 1 album out of 80 would do this listening to a couple common reference albums and so far I could not say there is a difference benefit I have about 30 extra gigs of space and I am getting all the music in 1 file where it was in 3 separate files also getting rid of dupes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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