birdman1996 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 New to the community, don't shoot me if I'm not posting in the correct location. My family and I are opening a Pub. Massive renovations are on going in a 108 year old building. I am a long way from needing speakers but If I knew what I should be hunting for I might be able to pick up speakers at a deal along the way. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I'm not new to audio but I am certainly not an expert so bear with me. The building is 78' long and 18' 6'' wide, exposed brick walls. The celling is 12' high, original tin, absolutely gorgeous if you're into that era. I have not decided what to finish the floor with, It will probably end up oak tongue and grove to keep in tune with the era of the building. There is a slight possibility of ceramic tile. (lets hope not) I plan to hang bookshelf or slightly bigger speakers on the wall or hang from the ceiling. My question is what would you suggest I use for speakers? This set up will mainly be used for background music throughout the day or for super bowl ect. BUT they need to be able to handle some power, I like to crank it up when I'm in the mood, before and after business hours ect. There is another room 40' by 18' 6'' I plan to put a juke box in, that will be a project for another day. I have a pair of 3.2s I bought at an estate, they were just too cute to pass up. I think they would work perfect. 2 or 3 PAIR in the large 78' room? I have a Yamaha rxv1700 that I plan to use, I already own it being one major plus, and I'm familiar with the settings and its capabilities. What do you think? I'm not trying to spend thousands on some background music....but there is no set spending limit. Thanks for your time! -Aaron. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Hello and welcome! Sounds like a cool project for sure. In the used market location is key. I'd look for the Klipsch Professional line, I think you'll get the most bang for your buck there for your large space. There's a pair of KI-362's on eBay now, don't know if they're close to you or not: http://www.ebay.com/itm/181822800919?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Good luck, and if you stick around put up some pic's of the remodel, I'm sure there'd be interest in watching the progress! Jesse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 HIP's or KP-250's are great speakers as well, trick is finding a pair. HIP's in CA: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151763866777?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT KP-250's in Indiana, although I'm really thinking he's asking about double retail. A good deal on these would be $250-$400 in my opinion: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-KP-250-vintage-speakers-Heresy-Pro-sounds-great-DJ-band-karaoke-/252041654149?hash=item3aaeda6f85 KP-301's in Atlanta, again, a bit overpriced, $400-$500 would be a deal in my opinion: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Klipsch-KP-301-3-Way-Loud-Speaker-System-used-good-condition-/281128332302?hash=item41748dec0e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 KP-301-II's if you can find them. KP-250's and a good sub if you can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Heresy's. If they're good enough for Chipotle, they're good enough for your pub. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Chad Posted August 6, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 6, 2015 New to the community, don't shoot me if I'm not posting in the correct location. My family and I are opening a Pub. Massive renovations are on going in a 108 year old building. I am a long way from needing speakers but If I knew what I should be hunting for I might be able to pick up speakers at a deal along the way. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I'm not new to audio but I am certainly not an expert so bear with me. The building is 78' long and 18' 6'' wide, exposed brick walls. The celling is 12' high, original tin, absolutely gorgeous if you're into that era. I have not decided what to finish the floor with, It will probably end up oak tongue and grove to keep in tune with the era of the building. There is a slight possibility of ceramic tile. (lets hope not) I plan to hang bookshelf or slightly bigger speakers on the wall or hang from the ceiling. My question is what would you suggest I use for speakers? This set up will mainly be used for background music throughout the day or for super bowl ect. BUT they need to be able to handle some power, I like to crank it up when I'm in the mood, before and after business hours ect. There is another room 40' by 18' 6'' I plan to put a juke box in, that will be a project for another day. I have a pair of 3.2s I bought at an estate, they were just too cute to pass up. I think they would work perfect. 2 or 3 PAIR in the large 78' room? I have a Yamaha rxv1700 that I plan to use, I already own it being one major plus, and I'm familiar with the settings and its capabilities. What do you think? I'm not trying to spend thousands on some background music....but there is no set spending limit. Thanks for your time! -Aaron. What part of the world are you in? There may be an Authorized Klipsch custom installer near you that could help guide your choices... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 In addition to speakers, have you also begun to give some thought to acoustic treatments? Rigid panels, curtains, etc? Obviously your ceiling is too low, and too architecturally valuable to utilize "cloud" panels, but I would think that with the construction materials in the building room that you should really consider some types of treatments. Will you have live music at any time, dancing, etc? These would be other things to think about relative to treatment, speaker, source components and amplification. I'm sure you are hoping for lots and lots of customers (as we are wishing you good luck too!), but if not configured properly and room treatment installed, music may become an afterthought underneath the din of the crowd noise..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Guys.. it's a pub, full of loud, obnoxious, drunk people. Music is background - not the main focus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 A location would be good, you may have a sound expert in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman1996 Posted August 6, 2015 Author Share Posted August 6, 2015 I have zero experience with PA speakers. If its beyond receiver to speaker with a positive and negative wire lead its above my head at this point. I will have to read up on PA systems. I am located half way between Chicago and Indy right off I65 just north of Lafayette. I'm digging around trying to come up with a couple pictures to share, I don't have my laptop with me today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 brick wall! you're acoustically doomed!!!!! OMG!!!!! ..it's about the beer, food, and PEOPLE. music is ancillary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Best advice I can give you is try to eliminate as many hard surfaces as possible. It'll be tough in a pub as you can't carpet due to spills but use as much absorptive materials as possible on the walls and ceilings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Guys.. it's a pub, full of loud, obnoxious, drunk people. Music is background - not the main focus. Apparently you are an "expert" on pubs. C'mon, there's nothing wrong with suggestions and thoughtful ideas. I mean, what the hell, why spend any kind of dough on Klipsch, when apparently used Bose satellites will do just fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 brick wall! you're acoustically doomed!!!!! OMG!!!!! ..it's about the beer, food, and PEOPLE. music is ancillary. Nope. Back when I'd bar hop I'd tend to go back to the places that had the best music if at all possible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I see a road trip in Chads future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman1996 Posted August 6, 2015 Author Share Posted August 6, 2015 I'm seriously limited to what pictures I can post with the 2mb limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Considering your location, my suggestion would be to reach out to (screen name) Colterphoto, and gain his experience and advice. A good man who knows the ropes of what you are considering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Well Birdman, you seem to be located in a most excellent location, Klipsch HQ is just up the road in Indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Considering your location, my suggestion would be to reach out to (screen name) Colterphoto, and gain his experience and advice. A good man who knows the ropes of what you are considering. That was my first thought as well as the Bes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Klipsch HQ is just up the road in Indy. Actually, that would be down the road... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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